Hop Growing 2017

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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by scuppeteer » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:53 pm

if you can only go to 3m then choose dwarf varieties (First Gold is very popular), otherwise you'll need 5-6m. Growing against the house is not to be advised. They suffer massively from windburn and heat from the brickwork. They are OK growing along fences but need a lot of training.
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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by Manngold » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:16 pm

Thanks for the heads up on the dwarf plants. If I can find some bare root hop plants now should I plant them now or wait a bit?

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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by Wonkydonkey » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:14 pm

Manngold wrote:Thanks for the heads up on the dwarf plants. If I can find some bare root hop plants now should I plant them now or wait a bit?

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Your have to wait till after the first frosts, when there dormant.. Unless someone just happens to still have a potted one.

Edit: you will not get a bare root now.
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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by Manngold » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:04 pm

Wonkydonkey wrote:
Manngold wrote:Thanks for the heads up on the dwarf plants. If I can find some bare root hop plants now should I plant them now or wait a bit?

Thanks

Your have to wait till after the first frosts, when there dormant.. Unless someone just happens to still have a potted one.

Edit: you will not get a bare root now.
Hi. I found these which are labelled as bare root: http://www.essentiallyhops.co.uk/acatal ... Plant.html

Are they not what I would need?

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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by Wonkydonkey » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:14 pm

Well, imo.... It's the growing season, so if you dig up a plant that growing, it will die as it needs to grow and wants light water etc. so unless they still have them in a fridge/cold storage they will not be dormat, and even if they were dormant the plant would need to grow and put energy into the root for next yrs growth. And remember hops are just starting to flower now, so even if your lucky and it grows a bit, will it get through the winter ?

Maybe that's why they have 50% off sale.

I could be completely wrong ( anyone else want to say I'm wrong ?,, ) but if you read willingham's hops info they say more or less what I've said. (2 chances to grow hops , dormant roots from nov-feb/ or after this time by potted cuttings) which don't get disturbed, apart from being shoved in a black hole (bag) for a week

If you want to gamble then give it a try, but if you want a good chance to success them wait till Nov-jan-feb

Ps someone got some hop root cuttings from a homebrewer in May, 2 months later than it should have been, most peeps did not do well with the root cuttings they got, I got one going but it took its time and it was touch and go if it was gonna make it.


So if you choose to gamble, please let me know if it grows next March , as I would love to know

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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by scuppeteer » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:24 am

I'm actually surprised a reputable firm like this are selling bare root at this time of year. They obviously had over stock of the variety. I agree with everything WD has already said.

Planting out is November/December for cuttings taken in the Spring of the same year, which would be strong enough to survive the Winter. Proper root stock is April/May depending on the weather.

Personally I would wait until the Spring of next year and buy them from Willingham Nursery. Granted it will take longer to get a crop but they will be much healthier for it.
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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by Manngold » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:30 am

Thanks guys, some great knowledge. I think based on that I will wait and just make sure that the area is prepared in advance. Would you recommend any previous threads/links to have a read over as well?

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Re: Hop Growing 2017

Post by Kohoutec » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:29 pm


scuppeteer wrote:Growing against the house is not to be advised. They suffer massively from windburn and heat from the brickwork. They are OK growing along fences but need a lot of training.
I learnt this the hard way. First year growing for me... They started off brilliantly but in the last month or so have really suffered. It looks like I'll get a few cones but until I read this didn't twig why they had started to look a bit unhappy. I've got them trained up a trellis but they're up against a south facing house wall so guess this is the residual heat from the brickwork.
Oh well next year hopefully a change of position will make all the difference!

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