Northdown vs northern brewer.

[barry44]

Hi guys, I recently completed an order with rob at the maltmiller and as part of it bought some of the ingredients for mysterio's snpa clone.

However, I appear to have boobed in the choice of the Bittering hops where I have bought northdown instead of northern brewer.

From the description on the site, north down and northern brewer are related so I don't think that I should have any issues with using it. However, I just wanted to check in here first.

So, can anyone see an issue with this replacement?

[Clibit]

Not used NB but northdown is described as an improved version of it. I'm sure it will be fine, esp as I guess you are only adding it early. There's not a problem.

[JKaranka]

Lovely hop, earthy, herbal, minty and sometimes a tad fruity.

[seymour]

I much MUCH prefer Northern Brewer over Northdown, but Sierra Nevada Pale Ale contains neither, so it's a moot point.

[mozza]

I've used it a few times for bittering and it's very clean. You won't have a problem

[barry44]

I hear what you are saying Seymour but mysterio's recipe does get good reviews.

[seymour]

Yes, his is definitely a great reliable recipe for the American Pale Ale style. I'm just saying neither is authentic, so don't stress it. Northdown will be fine as a full boil bittering addition only.

[oakwell]

i've never tried SNPA but came across this recipe and brewed it. it turned out really well but can't say whether it's close or not.

SNPA
Date:
Gyle Number:
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 11 lbs. 8.0 oz 5220 grams 88%
Crystal Malt, Pale 60 EBC 1 lbs. 9.2 oz 715 grams 12%

Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Cascade Whole 5.8 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 2.0 oz 56 grams 47.5%
Cascade Whole 5.8 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 1.0 oz 28 grams 23.7%
Perle Whole 7.65 % 30 mins 0 lbs. 0.5 oz 14 grams 11.9%
Magnum Whole 13.6 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 16.9%

Final Volume: 25 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.053
Final Gravity: 1.013
Alcohol Content: 5.2% ABV
Total Liquor: 36.4 Litres
Mash Liquor: 14.8 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 37.3144841700978 EBU
Colour: 21 EBC

[barry44]

That looks closer to the correct recipe as far as I know.

[barney]

Northdown IS a lovely Hop although quite fruity. It might be worth using it in an English Pale Ale or Bitter recipe if you are using bland dry yeasts like US05 or Nottingham to add that fruity complexity that you can sometimes get with good liquid English Ale yeasts.

Using it in SNPA though is wholly inappropriate, It will make a great beer just not Sierra Nevada.

The original recipe is on here somewhere.

[barry44]

Just tried mine Barney, its lovely.

Although it isn't snpa per se, it tastes like how I remember snpa to taste. I'll need to get a bottle of it to compare.

[barney]

Just tried mine Barney, its lovely.

Although it isn't snpa per se, it tastes like how I remember snpa to taste. I'll need to get a bottle of it to compare.

Thats ACE, you cant beat good beer.

[barry44]

True. I've just poured one of my mates first brews. A coopers APA hop tead and dry hopped with keyworth. Its blimming lovely too and you wouldn't think it is from a kit.

[barney]

MM sounds Lovely. I have made some ace Kits. Milestone were brilliant kits, I would happily sup a couple of pints of homewrecker right now. Have you told your mate he is on the slippery slope once he starts tampering with them. Now all I can think is , I can get a sack of malt and 500g of hops for the same price and get 25 gallon.

[barry44]

Don't worry, he is on the path to the dark side. I am plying him with all grain....