gelatin in secondary

Get advice on making beer from raw ingredients (malt, hops, water and yeast)
Post Reply
400d

gelatin in secondary

Post by 400d » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:14 pm

I had a very cloudy beer in my primary for 4 weeks, and it seemed like it never gonna clear.

I decided to use a gelatin.

I am very afraid of it because I'm gonna bottle this beer, and there is a possibility I will have carbonation problems...

So, today I racked from primary to secondary, adding slowly gelatin solution to the beer. I will keep it in secondary for 48 hours and bottle...

I saved and washed some yeast from primary, and my thought is to add it to the bottling bucket just before bottling, because I'm afraid the gelatin would pull all the yeast from the suspension.

What do you think of this idea? Yeast added only for carbonation directly to bottling bucket?

The other thing that is worrying me is how much of this saved yeast should I add to 5 gallons of beer?

Any advice?

Thanks

mysterio

Re: gelatin in secondary

Post by mysterio » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:20 pm

There should be enough yeast to carbonate the bottles. However if you're worried I would add a teaspoon of your yeast to the bottling bucket.

dave-o

Re: gelatin in secondary

Post by dave-o » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:19 am

I've always gelatin-ed my beers in secondary and have never had a problem with carbonation in the bottle.

I wouldn't add any extra yeast for bottling - it wouldn't be as clear as poss if you did.

400d

Re: gelatin in secondary

Post by 400d » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:45 am

dave-o wrote:I've always gelatin-ed my beers in secondary and have never had a problem with carbonation in the bottle.

I wouldn't add any extra yeast for bottling - it wouldn't be as clear as poss if you did.
cold you explain the process of clearing the beer with gelatin? how much of it do you add? how do you make this solution? what kind of gelatine do you use (I have some gelatin based on pork), no flavour no aroma...

I hope this one is ok

And at the end, how do you add it to the secondary? Do you rack onto the solution, do you add the solution on top of the beer, what temperature should the solution be?

oh so many questions... I'm just afraid I could ruin my beer with this experiment....

dave-o

Re: gelatin in secondary

Post by dave-o » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:04 pm

I rack to secondary after the ferment has all but finished.

I add gelatin finings right away:

-Sterilise a jug and spoon
-Add 500ml of boiling water
-Tip in one sachet of gelatin (i use the Dr. Oetker stuff you can buy at Tesco)
-Stir until it is dissolved
-Let it cool a little
-Tip into secondary
-Stir

Then after about a week, if it is looking clear enough, i'll bottle it. I've never left it in secondary for more than about a week, but it would probably still carbonate fine if it was left a little longer. After all, my secondary isn't heated, and hence has been at some pretty low temperatures over the past few weeks, what with it being in a garage.

400d

Re: gelatin in secondary

Post by 400d » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:35 pm

dave-o wrote:I rack to secondary after the ferment has all but finished.

I add gelatin finings right away:

-Sterilise a jug and spoon
-Add 500ml of boiling water
-Tip in one sachet of gelatin (i use the Dr. Oetker stuff you can buy at Tesco)
-Stir until it is dissolved
-Let it cool a little
-Tip into secondary
-Stir

Then after about a week, if it is looking clear enough, i'll bottle it. I've never left it in secondary for more than about a week, but it would probably still carbonate fine if it was left a little longer. After all, my secondary isn't heated, and hence has been at some pretty low temperatures over the past few weeks, what with it being in a garage.

thank you.

I've read that some people bottle after only 48 hours from adding gelatin. Do you think this would be ok?

dave-o

Re: gelatin in secondary

Post by dave-o » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:48 pm

I usually take a little sample every day or two and hold it up to the light. It's usually 5-7 days before it looks properly clear to me, but that's just my personal findings.

Post Reply