Fining in primary?
Fining in primary?
Hey all
I'm planning to try out gelatin in my next brew for the first time. I don't normally transfer to secondary before bottling, and I just wondered if I'd be OK fining in primary?
Thanks
I'm planning to try out gelatin in my next brew for the first time. I don't normally transfer to secondary before bottling, and I just wondered if I'd be OK fining in primary?
Thanks
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Re: Fining in primary?
I've done it but if the beer has already mostly cleared you could rack to a keg containing the gelatine. Bottling is different though. If bottling I suppose you could fine then add a syrup stir and rack to bottle.Badseed1974 wrote:Hey all
I'm planning to try out gelatin in my next brew for the first time. I don't normally transfer to secondary before bottling, and I just wondered if I'd be OK fining in primary?
Thanks
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Re: Fining in primary?
[quote="orlando"][quote="Badseed1974"]Hey all
I'm planning to try out gelatin in my next brew for the first time. I don't normally transfer to secondary before bottling, and I just wondered if I'd be OK fining in primary?
Thanks [/quote]
I've done it but if the beer has already mostly cleared you could rack to a keg containing the gelatine. Bottling is different though. If bottling I suppose you could fine then add a syrup stir and rack to bottle.[/quote]
No kegs here I'm afraid so I'm stuck with bottles
I normally prime the time consuming way of adding sugar to bottles so no need to disturb the brew in primary too much, I just wondered really if there are any reasons I'm unaware of that I should avoid fining in primary. I've had a search online but it seems most folk transfer to secondary first ( I would do this but I currently only have one FV that fits in my rather compact brew fridge)
I'm planning to try out gelatin in my next brew for the first time. I don't normally transfer to secondary before bottling, and I just wondered if I'd be OK fining in primary?
Thanks [/quote]
I've done it but if the beer has already mostly cleared you could rack to a keg containing the gelatine. Bottling is different though. If bottling I suppose you could fine then add a syrup stir and rack to bottle.[/quote]
No kegs here I'm afraid so I'm stuck with bottles
I normally prime the time consuming way of adding sugar to bottles so no need to disturb the brew in primary too much, I just wondered really if there are any reasons I'm unaware of that I should avoid fining in primary. I've had a search online but it seems most folk transfer to secondary first ( I would do this but I currently only have one FV that fits in my rather compact brew fridge)
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Re: Fining in primary?
I gelatin in primary very successfully.
I use the gelatin 24-48 hours before bottling. Longer works better, but 48 hours seems to be plenty long enough.
To get the full effect you need to chill the beer down as well as possible. I'll turn my temperature controller down to 0 (or -1) 48 hours before fining.
When you add the gelatin swirl it in very gently to avoid rousing any sediment. Equally if you have to move your fermenter between fining and bottling again be very gentle, and give it a little time to settle out.
Finally, when racking out of the fermenter tack from the top and don't be too greedy to avoid picking up sediment again.
Follow these hints and your beer will usually be sparklingly clear, even with a heavy dry hop.
I use the gelatin 24-48 hours before bottling. Longer works better, but 48 hours seems to be plenty long enough.
To get the full effect you need to chill the beer down as well as possible. I'll turn my temperature controller down to 0 (or -1) 48 hours before fining.
When you add the gelatin swirl it in very gently to avoid rousing any sediment. Equally if you have to move your fermenter between fining and bottling again be very gentle, and give it a little time to settle out.
Finally, when racking out of the fermenter tack from the top and don't be too greedy to avoid picking up sediment again.
Follow these hints and your beer will usually be sparklingly clear, even with a heavy dry hop.
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Re: Fining in primary?
I have used gelatin a few times to assist clarity on my pale beers, on one occasion the effect was stunning. Haven't quite nailed the process yet though.
Re: Fining in primary?
[quote="Jocky"]I gelatin in primary very successfully.
I use the gelatin 24-48 hours before bottling. Longer works better, but 48 hours seems to be plenty long enough.
To get the full effect you need to chill the beer down as well as possible. I'll turn my temperature controller down to 0 (or -1) 48 hours before fining.
When you add the gelatin swirl it in very gently to avoid rousing any sediment. Equally if you have to move your fermenter between fining and bottling again be very gentle, and give it a little time to settle out.
Finally, when racking out of the fermenter tack from the top and don't be too greedy to avoid picking up sediment again.
Follow these hints and your beer will usually be sparklingly clear, even with a heavy dry hop.[/quote]
Thanks Jocky, that's good to know, some good tips there as well
I use the gelatin 24-48 hours before bottling. Longer works better, but 48 hours seems to be plenty long enough.
To get the full effect you need to chill the beer down as well as possible. I'll turn my temperature controller down to 0 (or -1) 48 hours before fining.
When you add the gelatin swirl it in very gently to avoid rousing any sediment. Equally if you have to move your fermenter between fining and bottling again be very gentle, and give it a little time to settle out.
Finally, when racking out of the fermenter tack from the top and don't be too greedy to avoid picking up sediment again.
Follow these hints and your beer will usually be sparklingly clear, even with a heavy dry hop.[/quote]
Thanks Jocky, that's good to know, some good tips there as well
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Re: Fining in primary?
orlando wrote:
I've done it but if the beer has already mostly cleared you could rack to a keg containing the gelatine. Bottling is different though. If bottling I suppose you could fine then add a syrup stir and rack to bottle.
orlando, Jocky,Jocky wrote:I gelatin in primary very successfully.
I use the gelatin 24-48 hours before bottling. Longer works better, but 48 hours seems to be plenty long enough.
To get the full effect you need to chill the beer down as well as possible. I'll turn my temperature controller down to 0 (or -1) 48 hours before fining.
When you add the gelatin swirl it in very gently to avoid rousing any sediment. Equally if you have to move your fermenter between fining and bottling again be very gentle, and give it a little time to settle out.
Finally, when racking out of the fermenter tack from the top and don't be too greedy to avoid picking up sediment again.
Follow these hints and your beer will usually be sparklingly clear, even with a heavy dry hop.
I`ve been brewing for 4 years and never felt the need for gelatin, always had clear beers.
However, driving home from Notts today, MrsAles on the phone, me thinking about HB (whilst observing all traffic around me and driving
in a safe and correct manner), I said to MrsAles, open a new tab on your phone and buy me some gelatine please.
I`ve got 20Lt to bottle and I am going to try this gelatin thing.
MrsAles said `I`ve got some gelatin in the kitchen cupboard`!
So I did the usual thing with the gelatin mix, but instead of pouring it in the FV and mixing it in, I gently poured it through a fine mesh
colander spreading it all over the beer surface. No mixing.
I am going to buy a little watering can if I decide that gelatin is the way forward!
I will move the FV from the beer shed to the `Bottling Station` (kitchen) on wednesday and bottle thursday.
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Re: Fining in primary?
Confused, WA! Why bother with gelatine if you've always had clear beers?
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Re: Fining in primary?
Just pour the gelatine into the, preferably, secondary FV. DO NOT STIR. It will sink to the bottom and form a firm layer with the yeast.
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Re: Fining in primary?
guypettigrew wrote:Confused, WA! Why bother with gelatine if you've always had clear beers?
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ELC!
I wanted to try this to see if the beers clear quicker than normal.
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Re: Fining in primary?
Gelatine will remove chill haze too, if you can get the temp down
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Re: Fining in primary?
Re the watering can idea etc; don't overlook the ability to disinfect whatever is used (in fact the whole procedure needs a little bit of care in that respect, because the gelatine shouldn't be boiled).
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Re: Fining in primary?
Ah, makes sense. How long do your bottled beers usually take to clear?WalesAles wrote: Guy,
ELC!
I wanted to try this to see if the beers clear quicker than normal.
WA
What does ELC mean? Google was no help to me on this. Perhaps 'experiential learning curve'?!
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Guy,guypettigrew wrote:Ah, makes sense. How long do your bottled beers usually take to clear?WalesAles wrote: Guy,
ELC!
I wanted to try this to see if the beers clear quicker than normal.
WA
What does ELC mean? Google was no help to me on this. Perhaps 'experiential learning curve'?!
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Depending on which beer, usually 2 - 3 weeks to clear.
WA
Re: Fining in primary?
2-3 weeks? You need some ELC gelatine! It needs chilling to work well. Don't like the stuff myself. The first and last pints out of the keg tend to be not for drinking. It seems to prevent yeast packing down.