Anyone interested in a winter warmer

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Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by Fuggled Mind » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:27 pm

Hi everyone

Based on the conversation started on the Jim's ESB brewalong thread, is anyone out there interested in doing another? Though it's summer, the nights will soon be drawing in and it will be time to think about brewing dark and malty beers.

I have to admit, I didn't have the time for the ESB or summer quaffer brewalongs but if it's a dark beer, I'm sure I'd find the time to do so. For dark and malty beers, I guess there's a lot to choose from but I was thinking of anything along the lines of winter warmers, strong dark milds, Burtons, American brown ales and maybe even porter or stout.

So what do you think? If you are interested, I'd love to hear about what style of beer would be best and what ingredients should be used. It would be nice if someone could come up with an extract version too or a beer kit mod to get as many people involved as possible.

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by cerbera84 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:03 pm

I'd be interested in attempting to brew a darker beer - I've done a fair few pale ales recently so need to change for winter. My last attempt at a Vanilla and Bourbon Stout last year went terribly, terribly wrong so I'd be up trying for a darker beer/stout.
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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by jinjahbiscuit » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:11 pm

Yup! Good man Fuggled Mind. I'm in!
Strong dark ale, any recipe ideas?

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by guypettigrew » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:47 pm

A strong dark mild would be good.

Here's a very tasty one I brewed earlier this year.

Mild Ale Malt 4000 g
Vienna Malt 500 g
Chocolate Malt 500 g
Crystal Malt 500 g
Flaked Oats 100 g
Black Malt 50 g

Fuggle Whole 90 mins 40 g
Golding Whole 90 mins 20 g
Cascade Whole 30 mins 25 g
Fuggle Whole 30 mins 30 g

Final Volume: 22.5 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.052
Final Gravity: 1.015
Alcohol Content: 4.8% ABV
Mash Liquor: 14.1 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 72 %
Bitterness: 49 EBU
Colour: 218 EBC

If enough people are interested then no doubt Rob at 'The Malt Miller' would make the kits up for us. He'd also be able alter the weights of the hops to enable us to get the intended IBUs. I think!!

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by WalesAles » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:10 pm

Can I still add my Father-in-Laws ashes to the Brew? :D
He was added to my last `Winter Warmer` and they loved the Beer until I told them Mansel was in it! [-X
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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by guypettigrew » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:17 pm

Father-in-law ashes are completely acceptable in this beer.

Just checked the Malt Miller site. Seems he doesn't have any in stock at the moment.

The rest of us will just have to cope with brewing a sub-standard ale.

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by supergreenmini » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:30 pm

I'm in for a good winter warmer

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by Fuggled Mind » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:25 am

WalesAles wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:10 pm
Can I still add my Father-in-Laws ashes to the Brew? :D
He was added to my last `Winter Warmer` and they loved the Beer until I told them Mansel was in it! [-X
I won`t tell them again! [-X

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I think we should put father-in-law's ashes down as optional. What was the idea behind that then? Did you run out of black patent?
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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by Fuggled Mind » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:30 am

So what malts do you reckon should go om a winter warmer. I reckon it should be
Pale malt
Crystal (maybe some different shades to increase complexity)
Chocolate
Black malt.

It's not malt but some sugar wouldn't go amiss either

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by JonoT » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:51 am

I'm up for joining in too!

I got this recepie from a mate of mine, was drinking it at his over the summer, it was lovley, so i brewed it myself few weeks ago, tasted great when I keged :) I think the flavours come from the Carafa III.

Recipe: Dark Horse ESB
Brewer: Jono Thompson
Asst Brewer:
Style: Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size (fermenter): 25.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated Color: 37.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 45.0 IBUs
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5.25 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 3 90.7 %
0.36 kg Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118 Grain 4 6.2 %
0.09 kg Carafa III (1034.3 EBC) Grain 5 1.6 %
0.09 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 6 1.6 %
62.41 g Fuggles [4.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 27.9 IBUs
41.60 g East Kent Goldings (EKG) [5.00 %] - Boil Hop 8 10.6 IBUs
29.12 g Fuggles [4.80 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 9 6.5 IBUs
20.83 g East Kent Goldings (EKG) [5.00 %] - Boil Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
10.00 g Fuggles [4.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 11 0.0 IBUs

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by Manngold » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:56 am

I would be interested in joining. My father in law is still alive so will give that bit a miss...

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by Fuggled Mind » Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:57 am

So far in the recipe ideas posted, I can see it's all English hops. What hops do you think we should go with?

I like the idea of bittering with something that gives off lots of blackcurrant (some say cat piss) like Brambling Cross, Bullion, Cluster, or Brewer's Gold.

For flavour do you think it should be something softer like Goldings? I've always liked the idea of using WGV but I imagine lots of people dislike them.

Just some ideas. Let's hear some suggestions

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by jinjahbiscuit » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:55 pm

I've brewed the following recipe a couple of times and it's turned out to be very nice. It's not a dark beer, but it fits the "winter warmer" style in taste, being malty, a little sweet and has that warming alcohol glow required with feet up by the fireside on cold night.
For the extract and steeped grain guys, it's ready to go, but someone would have to do the conversion for AG.
I didn't dry hop my attempts as the original recipe said to dry hop 5 days before the end of fermentation; and I didn't (don't!) have a clue how to calculate that. Also I used S05 rather than the Wyeast 1056.
I imagine hops could be altered to suit peoples tastes, but it does taste good and despite the chinook, it's not bonkers hoppy.

OG 1.065
FG 1.014

910g Crystal 40L
450g Carapils
1.8kg Golden Light DME
1.5kg Golden Light LME
28g Chinook 11.9% AA @ 60
56g Cascade 5% AA @ 5
56g Centennial 8.7% AA @5

28g Cascade Dry Hop
28g Centennial Dry Hop

Wyeast 1056

Plenty of time to get it on and be ready for Christmas too! :)

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Re: Anyone interested in a winter warmer

Post by Hairybiker » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:46 pm

I'm up for it, fancy something along the lines of Old Tom :D
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