Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

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Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Paddington » Tue May 15, 2018 10:01 pm

I want to make a beer that uses unmalted wheat. The only homebrew supplier I can find who stocks it doesn’t do free p & p on big orders so I will effectively be paying £8 extra to use unmalted wheat rather than flaked. So, is it worth paying that much extra.

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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Rookie » Wed May 16, 2018 2:35 am

Paddington wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 10:01 pm
I want to make a beer that uses unmalted wheat. The only homebrew supplier I can find who stocks it doesn’t do free p & p on big orders so I will effectively be paying £8 extra to use unmalted wheat rather than flaked. So, is it worth paying that much extra.
I wouldn't.
I'm just here for the beer.

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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Rookie » Wed May 16, 2018 2:35 am

I doubt that there's enough of a difference to make the cost worth it.
Isn't flaked wheat made from unmalted wheat?
I'm just here for the beer.

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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Paddington » Wed May 16, 2018 6:16 am

Rookie wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:35 am
I doubt that there's enough of a difference to make the cost worth it.
Isn't flaked wheat made from unmalted wheat?
That’s my understanding.

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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by IPA » Wed May 16, 2018 7:36 am

Flaked wheat is cooked and rolled. If you want un malted wheat you can buy it from chicken food suppliers but you will have to soften by soaking it in hot water at around 55° C and then you will have the grain shaped equivalent of flaked wheat. So my advice is don't bother.
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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Paddington » Wed May 16, 2018 9:03 am

Yes, I’ve just seen a good article from Brad on Beersmith, basically saying he has stopped using unmalted wheat as flaked and even torrified give the same results without the need for a cereal rest. If the mice hadn’t got at my torrefied I could have used that! A farmer mate of mine always comments on beer basically been made out of the same stuff he feeds his animals.

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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Jocky » Wed May 16, 2018 9:29 am

Paddington wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 9:03 am
Yes, I’ve just seen a good article from Brad on Beersmith, basically saying he has stopped using unmalted wheat as flaked and even torrified give the same results without the need for a cereal rest. If the mice hadn’t got at my torrefied I could have used that! A farmer mate of mine always comments on beer basically been made out of the same stuff he feeds his animals.
True.

There's also a million and one possible malts you can put in your beer, but most have a similar end result and most are just developed by a maltster to meet the demand of a local brewery for a particular product.
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Re: Unmalted wheat v flaked wheat

Post by Normski » Wed May 16, 2018 10:31 am

I’ve used unmalted wheat bought from a local feed warehouse.
It cost under £6 for 25Kg.
I found as long as I did a stepped mash and rested around 50c for 10 mins it was fine.
Upto 20% gave plenty of body and I couldn’t taste the wheat. At 33% it was a bit to wheaty for my tastes.
I used it in everything I brewed. Lager, Pale Ale, Stout all were great.
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