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Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PICS

Post by leedsbrew » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:48 am

Today is the day that the new brewhouse gets it's first run out. Doing a half batch (40ish L) of London Porter based on Meantime Brewing's version


Fermentables
Ingredient Amount % MCU When
UK Pale Ale Malt 5.431 kg 48.3 % 3.2 In Mash/Steeped
UK Munich Malt 2.653 kg 23.6 % 2.9 In Mash/Steeped
UK Brown Malt 0.888 kg 7.9 % 9.8 In Mash/Steeped
German Smoked Malt 0.888 kg 7.9 % 0.4 In Mash/Steeped
UK Medium Crystal 0.506 kg 4.5 % 5.9 In Mash/Steeped
UK Wheat Malt 0.281 kg 2.5 % 0.1 In Mash/Steeped
UK Chocolate Malt 0.247 kg 2.2 % 21.6 In Mash/Steeped
UK Oat Malt 0.225 kg 2.0 % 0.1 In Mash/Steeped
UK Black Malt 0.124 kg 1.1 % 13.0 In Mash/Steeped


Hops
Variety Alpha Amount IBU Form When
UK Fuggle 3.9 % 99 g 20.8 Loose Whole Hops All Of Boil
UK Fuggle 4.5 % 53 g 4.5 Loose Whole Hops 10 Min From End
UK Fuggle 4.5 % 53 g 0.0 Loose Whole Hops At turn off



Just waiting for my brother to arrive. He helped fabricate the new brewery so he's coming up from Rugby to help out today! :D

More to follow! :D

LB
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Post by WishboneBrewery » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:58 pm

Should be good, hope you have time for some pictures.

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Post by leedsbrew » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:20 pm

don't you wory about that matey! both my brothers have turned up for the occasion so I have plenty of spare hands for snaps! :D

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Re: Double Dog Brewing naugural brewday! - London Porter

Post by Horatio » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:47 pm

Hope the brewday went well? Pics, pics pics.. Please! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by leedsbrew » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:06 pm

just uploading them to photobucket now lad! :D

It all went really well! better than I expected! I took a good 7 hours, but I wasn't really on the clock as my brothers were over and we were chilling and making sure it all went well! Hit the mash temp, OG, FG all ok. Was 5L short of the 40L I was aiming for but I know where it all went so I just need to adjust my figures slightly for next time!


I'll post the pics in a bit and write it all up properly! :D

LB

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Re: Double Dog Brewing naugural brewday! - London Porter

Post by leedsbrew » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:42 pm

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Doughing in!

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Hit the mash temp almost spot on! :D

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After 60 mins we recirculated using the little solar projects pump!

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My brother Liam who came up from Rugby for the brewday! He fabricated the stands for me! :D


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Left it to recirculate for 10 minutes

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100g FWH fuggle into the kettle with the new hop stopper! :D


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Salt additions. Off the top of my head it was about 13g calcium chloride, and 8g epsom, some common salt but I can't remember how much!

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First wort going into the kettle


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Started getting dark so had to break out the head torch! :D

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checking the progress! :D

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Second sparge going into the kettle

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50 plate chiller set up! This thing was awesome! Turned it on straight after flame out and the wort was coming out at 22 deg C after about 30 seconds!
I didnt realise how much wort was actually going to be held up inside the chiller so I recon that's where a good 1L of final wort went to as it spilled out over my kitchen floor when I went to clean it! :oops:

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Nice clear wort coming out into the FV

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The filth! :D


Pitched two packets of Nottingham rehydrated as per the instructions! It was showing signs of life in the morning which was 7 hours after pitching! We were aiming for 40L at 1.060 but got 35L at 1.061. I think I can account for the losses but I'll talk about that in a bit.

Now as far as numbers are concerned We hit the mash temp all but 0.6 of a degree. That was great as I didn't know how much boiling water it would take to pre heat the 80L mash tun. Two kettles it would seem! :D
We also hit the PBG spot on at 1.054 and the OG was meant to be 1.060 and we got 1.061. I have no way of knowing if we hit out pre boil volume as I didn't calibrate a measuring stick.

I reckon the losses came from:

1: The boil took about 45 minutes to really get going, after about half an hour we raised the gas ring up about 5mm so that it was closer to the bottom of the kettle. I think we may have been loosing a bit of heat to the atmosphere instead of heating up the wort. this i reckon lead to an increased loss to evaporation!

2: I definitely lost 1L of wort to the plate chiller as it ended up on my kitchen floor when I came to clean the chiller! :evil:

3: After cleaning out the copper tonight I found about 2.5L of wort still in the bottom. Now on brew day the kettle drained till no more would come out. As soon as I removed the hop stopper it ran out again. I think I need to redesign the hop stopper for this copper. It drains from the middle but after closer inspection tonight the kettle itself has a slopped bottom so it should have an effective dead space of nothing as it drains out to the tap. I have another hop stopper design in mind for this I just need to get some more mesh!

Apart from that the hop stopper worked a treat! No seeds of hop leaf got through. A bit of break material came though but that passed straight through the plate chiller. When I back flushed it for about half an hour it seemed to clear itself. It then got baked in the over (until I get a pressure cooker for next time) and is now sat with star san solution made up with boiled water, foil wrapped openings and the plastic caps back on the openings.
All in all I am very impressed worth the chiller. We recirculated the wort through the chiller till the wort was coming out at 22 with the water turned off! We then let it settle for half an hour and then gravity fed into the FVs.


I'm writing a list of observations and things I want/need to do before next brew day. This includes

1: Sight gauge for HLT
2: Pump and chiller on some type of board so they are fixed down
3: Hop stopper redesign
4: calibrated stick for brew kettle
5: return manifold for mash tun (probably 45 degree T manifold)
6: pressure cooker for plate chiller cleaning


there will probably be more when i really get to think about it.

All in all it went pretty damn smooth. It wasn't stressfull, it was great having it all just set up instead of moving stuff around in the kitchen. I should have done this ages ago. :D :D :D :D

Let just hope the beer tastes good! :D

LB ............... out

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Re: Double Dog Brewing naugural brewday! - London Porter

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:53 pm

Brilliant :) I'll look forward to seeing some more brewdays on your new kit :)

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Re: Double Dog Brewing inaugural brewday! - London Porter

Post by haz66 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:10 pm

Looking good,glad all went well.

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Re: Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PIC

Post by Kev888 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:22 pm

Great stuff, really glad it went so well!

Cheers,
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Re: Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PIC

Post by JontyR » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:55 pm

Absolutely brilliant, you must be well chuffed - good brew day mate

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Re: Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PIC

Post by Bobba » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:17 am

Awesome! Great pics, and a tasty looking recipe! Nice one
What are those neat little white connectors you've got plumbed into you pump and chiller?

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Re: Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PIC

Post by Horatio » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:23 am

Looking really good! Fantastic pics, great set up too; I need to keep mine set up and not be moving it about on brewdays as well.

Is the kettle easy to clean out?

Damn1 I now want to get a brew on but I have to go to work!!! :lol:

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Re: Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PIC

Post by leedsbrew » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:56 am

Cheers chaps! Aye I'm made up it went so smoothly! Even after we started to crack into a couple when the mash was on! :D
pdtnc wrote:Brilliant :) I'll look forward to seeing some more brewdays on your new kit :)
your more than welcome to come over for a brewday Ade if you ever fancy! that goes for anyone round here! :D

Bobba wrote:Awesome! Great pics, and a tasty looking recipe! Nice one
What are those neat little white connectors you've got plumbed into you pump and chiller?
they are John Guest speedfit couplers. The pump and wort side of the chiller are 15mm to 1/2" bsp and the water side of the chiller are 15mm to 3/4" bsp. they all have a length of 15mm copper pipe that I use as a hose tail.
Horatio wrote:
Is the kettle easy to clean out?

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It's not as bad as I thought it would be. I scooped out the hops and trub with a small trowel, then just rinsed it out with the hose. As the tap is 3/4" the hop flowers flow straight though! :D

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Post by Kev888 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:23 pm

Just been perusing the pictures again - looks like a very good setup indeed. You've used the same sort of tank for the boiler and and HLT as I have too, so its very interesting for me to see the differences.

It sounds like the gas is a definate advantage; it takes well over an hour for my 3kw immersion to bring the boiler to a rolling boil with a half (45L ish) brew length; not only is it lower powered but I have to wait for the element to become covered (during my slow fly sparge) before I can begin heating, so the wort cools quite a bit whilst I'm waiting for that. I'd guess your setup is probably even faster than two elements would be, if that was a similar brew length.

Cleaning the boiler still needs a bit of work, but I'm getting there. I'm still unsure about leaving the top on - its great at keeping the heat in and for keeping things contained, but I also find it a little more awkward for cleaning. To start with I tried tipping the tank up and flushing it out with a hose, out in the yard - this worked well but is unpleasant and difficult on dark rainy nights, and lugging the tank about wasn't easy either, particularly with all the squidgy and reasonably fragile foam and bubble wrap I put on mine - I was starting to damage it (and me!). I've now got a wet and dry vacuum cleaner from wickes which deals with the spent hops whilst in place, it works well but of course the vacuume is another thing to clean afterwards; for some reason my hops clogged when I tried to wash them out the spout, maybe I should try harder.. I've found that then filling the tank with water over-night softens any hops and crudd that becomes baked onto the tank and element, and it can then be easily wiped off with a non-stick kitchen sponge and rinsed out through the tap - thankfully I can just about reach the deepest corners. Its not very elegant though, so I may try water jets and spray balls in the future.

I couldn't decide between purely gravity or a pumped system either; I went with gravity and it works well for fly sparging but things are a bit tight for height in my garage (its fiddly to get into the HLT) so I may start using a pump in the future (I got one to empty the boiler anyway) - did you batch sparge with that setup?

Cheers
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Re: Double Dog Brewing 1st brewday! - London Porter WITH PIC

Post by Manx Guy » Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:33 pm

Hi LB!

Nice set up and a fun looking brewday!

After getting on the beer during the mash, I wonder how much 'help' your brothers were... :lol:

Cheers!

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