Belgian Wit. Cereal mash gone bad (+pics)

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Belgian Wit. Cereal mash gone bad (+pics)

Post by jmc » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:41 pm

I based this on Leedsbrew's Blanches de St. Oswald Belgian Wit 25-01-12 (+ pics) (Cheers Leedsbrew)

I tweaked it to suit what I had. Main grain difference is I also used some flaked wheat and a bit more acid malt. I used a Floris wit yeast.
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The brewday started off well but then went downhill fast...

Bohemian floor-malted pilsner malt is main malt. This benefits from a protein rest.
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Very happy with yeast recovered from Floris Wit

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First Step - Start the Cereal Mash
Liquor added to boiler at 45C to start cereal mash
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Cereal Mash changed colour after 20 mins at 40C (Glucan / Gum rest)
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This was my first cereal mash and I was suprised that it was going quite well.
I was able to keep temp +-1c by manually tweeking boiler & stirring.

Hubris --- Disaster, funny smell then smoke coming from under boiler. Turn off power, empty cereal mash into plastic bucket and investigate.
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It looks like some wort has leaked through element seal and was carbonizing and burning underneath. Also looks like temp-overheat module (previously disconnected) was overheating.

I took element and its seal out and reviewed the damage. Not pretty :(
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After some hand-wringing and a post on Jims. I decided to try to clean up element and refit.
More info on mending boiler in post: another post

:idea: I was very lucky that I had an old 4 gal tea-urn that was buried under my bench as a spare HLT.
I'd bought this off eBay in July 2010 and hadn't used it since 1 test boil then. I thought I could use this for cereal mash and hopefully boiler would be fixed in time for boiling wort after the mash. [-o<

Pressed on with cereal mash. While looking into boiler problem, the cereal mash had cooled down to about 30C. Worried that lactic acid bacteria may take hold, but nothing to lose.
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HLT2 - Replacement to boil cereal mash. Pic just before test boil.
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Added cereal mash to HLT2 and rose to next step 50C - protein rest.
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Thought I deserved a beer at this stage. Munich Blonde. I'm saving Franziskaner tap for this Wit!
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68C - Next Cereal Mash step. BTW: All malts & hops from The Malt Miller
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MEANWHILE - Start malt mash - dough in at Protein rest temp 50C
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Boil Cereal Mash 15 mins
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Main malt mash after protein rest. Gone all milky.
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Added cereal mash (jugged in) and added liquor to achieve target mash temp 68C (or so).

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Fernox LSX had had 2 hours in a warm room to set element in place. Testing for leaks with a test boil
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After running off initial mash add liquor for 1st batch sparge. Sparging suprisingly trouble-free. No hint of it being stuck. Lots of very fine material in run-off. I didn't vorlauf much.
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Batch sparge completed. Successful raise to boil temp with no leaks :)
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Really anxious during boil as boiler seemed to make different noises than before, kept checking all the time but seems OK.

Prepare aromatics. Coriander & orange zest at last 15mins. Camomile for last 5 mins.
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Finally 12 hours after starting mash pour into the FV!
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Boiler smells amazing and wort tastes good too :)
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25L at 1046 in FV
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** Edited with links to other post about fix

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Re: Belgian Wit. Cereal mash gone bad (+pics)

Post by WishboneBrewery » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:09 am

Bloody hell, glad it all worked out in the end :)

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Re: Belgian Wit. Cereal mash gone bad (+pics)

Post by leedsbrew » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:36 am

Nice work matey! Others may have jacked it at the 1st hurdle! I'd be very I tested to see how the floris yeast works! Once it's bottled do you fancy swapping a bottle through the mail!?

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Re: Belgian Wit. Cereal mash gone bad (+pics)

Post by jmc » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:56 pm

leedsbrew wrote:Nice work matey! Others may have jacked it at the 1st hurdle! I'd be very I tested to see how the floris yeast works! Once it's bottled do you fancy swapping a bottle through the mail!?
Hi LB

I think Floris Wit yeast has a longer than normal lag time as it took a couple of days to get going each time I stepped the starter up.

Its now looking ok:
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Long lag time not helped by me c@cking up fermenting fridge temp so it started over-cold. ho-hum it was a long day.

Smelling and tasting good so I'm hopeful. [-o<

A bottle swap would be great..
ATB John

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