American Pale and Amber Ales

[TheMumbler]

APA
Brewlength 20 litres
OG1053
FG 1013
SRM 10 Lov
IBU 34 (tinseth)

4000g Maris Otter
250g Pale Crystal
250g Carapils

20g Simcoe (11.9) @ 30 mins
20g Simcoe (11.9) @ 15 mins
20g Simcoe (11.9) @ 0 mins
20g Amarillo (10.9) @ 0 mins
20g Amarillo (10.9) dry hop


yeast: US05 at around 18c

Amber
OG1060
FG 1015
SRM 10 Lov
IBU 37 (tinseth)

4000g Maris Otter
250g Pale Crystal
250g Carapils
500g Caramunich (steep)
250g Crystal (steep)
200g Amber (steep)

20g Simcoe (11.9) @ 60 mins
20g Chinook (12.5) @ 15 mins
20g Chinook(12.5) @ 0 mins
20g Simcoe (11.9) @ 0 mins

US05 uncontrolled

[barney]

Two nice recipes there Ben. have a good one.

Good yeast that Mauribrew, just watch out the mash temp or the attenuation can get a bit low. Sorry if you know that already.

[TheMumbler]

Two nice recipes there Ben. have a good one.

Good yeast that Mauribrew, just watch out the mash temp or the attenuation can get a bit low. Sorry if you know that already.

Never used it before Barney thanks for the tip

Mash is on at 66c and it will probably drop a bit since my insulation isn't the best even with a sleeping bag. Do you reckon that will be OK? I guess I will get a reasonable amount of residuals from all of that crystal/carmunich... I could always go with something else, I think I probably have US05, S04 and maybe Gervin.

[barney]

I dont think you will get anywhere near the anticipated 1015 at 66°C, will be nearer 1020 maybe even a bit higher.

[testtube]

Are you using your ingenious mash drain splitting device?

[TheMumbler]

If i can find it I might, otherwise it will be a matter of splitting each batch after it is drained.

I think I'll go US05 for both beers and keep the mauribrew for a session ale.

[testtube]

Only used it once and that was destined for a Lambic so didn't take much of a note. S05 is probably better anyway.

[leedsbrew]

Nice looking beers matey! Will you (and the beers) be making it over to saltaire in April?

[WishboneBrewery]

Tasty all round those Ben

[TheMumbler]

Nice looking beers matey! Will you (and the beers) be making it over to saltaire in April?

That is the idea

Tasty all round those Ben

Slight change of plan in that 500g caramunich + 500g of crystal steeped became 500g caramunich + 250g crystal + 200g amber (recipe edited to reflect this).
25 min steep at around 68c, then added for the last 5 minutes of the boil
OG was 1052 not 1060, probably due to doing a separate steep
OG and volume for the pale was bang on.

both tasted OK out of the trial jar, I'd say the steeped one is more of an amber than a red, I am now wondering about dry hopping that one as well to give it a bit more oomph

[WishboneBrewery]

Dry Hop

[testtube]

I've tried dry hopping once, got lots of cut grass flavour, is that me that over did it or just the type of hops?

[TheMumbler]

Dry Hop

You would say that , have you used Chinook as a dry hop? Or know anything bout its suitability.

The APA will be getting Amarillo as planned.

I've tried dry hopping, got lots of cut grass flavour, is that me that over did it or just the type of hops?

From what I've read, getting grassy flavours depends on your contact time. More grassy flavour with longer contact. HIgher oil content hops should allow you to have less contact time. How long were yours in for?

I've only dry hopped the once and that didn't have that taste profile but mine were only if for a couple of days (I'd have to check my notes for specifics)

[WishboneBrewery]

I think Chinook is a brilliant dry hop, I think it sort of says 'BIG'

@Testtube, some hops are more grassy than others, I've found the grassy ones take longer to settle down and become drinkable. I find Citra to be Grassy.

[testtube]

I've tried dry hopping, got lots of cut grass flavour, is that me that over did it or just the type of hops?

From what I've read, getting grassy flavours depends on your contact time. More grassy flavour with longer contact. HIgher oil content hops should allow you to have less contact time. How long were yours in for?

I've only dry hopped the once and that didn't have that taste profile but mine were only if for a couple of days (I'd have to check my notes for specifics)

That'll be it, lots of high oil hops for 3/4 weeks, it was experimental to see what happened over doing it, hop flavour was a bit harse as well, kinda of Ooo.. er.. yuk. Less is more me thinks.