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SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:34 pm

Brewday October 21, 2014.

I've been drinking some great commercial 80 Shilling and 90 Shilling ales lately, which of course inspires me to brew my own. Instead of following the trendy American Amber Ale route, I decided to attempt an historic recipe. I found an oddball 1965 Maclay 80/- Export Ale, which according to brewery records contained 75% Pale, 11.5% Flaked Maize, 13.5% Mix of Sugars (#1 Invert, DCS, Malt Extract, Brewer's Caramel):

I tried to be authentic except for:

• Maclay probably used pregelatinized flaked maize, which can be conveniently included in a regular mash with relatively high single-infusion temperature. I cracked my own corn which required a preliminary cereal mash to gelatinize. I have a personal theory that organic popcorn is less genetically modified, and thus a little closer to old-fashioned native grain compared with modern agribusiness "King Corn", but I digress...

• There’s a lot of debate about the authenticity of smoked malt. I realize Scottish brewers seldom used smoked malt, but I'm trying to use up mine, so I included 5% of the grainbill in the cereal mash. It was beechwood as opposed to peat, but gimme a break.

• As a result of my cereal mash addition, this resembles a popular German two-step hochkurz* mash schedule. If Maclay in fact conducted separate cereal mashes--like most American and European lager breweries as well--then my technique might be more authentic than I thought.

• Maclay used classic UK hops like Fuggles, Goldings and Brewers Gold but I'm substituting Flyer, still a distinctive UK hop but bolder. Why? 'Cuz they rock, that's why.

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Anyway, here is my personalized recipe:
SEYMOUR 80/-

5 US gallons = 4.2 Imperial gallons = 18.9 Liters

GRAINBILL
71% = 5.11 lb = 2318 g, Pauls Mild Malt (UK), any high-enzyme, dextriny UK pale malt should suffice
11% = .79 lb = 358 g, Organic Popcorn Kernels (US), if you substitute Flaked Maize, you can skip the separate cereal mash
5% = .36 lb = 163 g, Weyermann Smoked Malt (German)
13% = .93 lb = 421 g, Homemade Dark Invert Syrup (US)
=7.2 lbs total

CEREAL MASH
Combine the cracked corn, smoked malt and water. Heat to 158°F/70°C for 5 minutes, then bring to a boil for 15-30 minutes. Warning: corn is bigger and harder than barley, and hell on your grainmill.

MAIN MASH
Meanwhile, heat 1.6 gal/1.3 Imperial gal/6 L water to 157°F/69°C and stir into Mild Malt which should equalize to 145°F/63°C. Start the clock. Rest 15-30 minutes, then add the boiling corn mash into this main mash, adding more hot water as needed to reach 158-172°F/70-77°C. In my case, it equalized at 152°F/66.7°C, so I raised it again to 162°F/72.2°C.

After 60-90 minutes elapse in the main mash, VORLAUF then SPARGE for 7 US gal/5.8 Imperial gal/26.5 L pre-boil.

*Hochkurz concept: This technique combines the convenience of a short 60 minute single-infusion mash with higher mash efficiency benefits of a multi-step decoction mash. If more time is spent at 145°F, the wort will be more fermentable and thin-bodied. If more time is spent at the higher mash temp, it will be less fermentable but the final beer will have more residual sweetness, a fuller mouthfeel and improved head retention. See: http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?ti ... on_Mashing

HOPS
.5 oz = 14 g, Flyer, first wort addition then a two hour boil
.5 oz = 14 g, Flyer, 15 min (add Irish Moss at this time too)
.5 oz = 14 g, Flyer, at flame-out

My groundwater is obviously getting cooler, because it only took about 20 minutes to CHILL the wort. I then AERATED, RACKED to fermentor, and MEASURED OG. It was high (a welcome surprise), so I liquored-back to my target.

YEAST
Most Scottish breweries did not manage their own proprietary yeast strain, likely buying yeast from various UK breweries instead. I've read just about any slightly fruity ale yeast will work. Ironically, the popular McEwans Scottish ale strain (Wyeast 1728/White Labs WLP028) is extremely high-attenuating, thus might not be appropriate for less-attenuated Maclay clones. I chose to use a packet of Muntons and a Heady Topper bottle culture (aka The Alchemist Conan Ale, VPB1188, Vermont Ale, etc.)

STATS (assuming 78% mash efficiency and 78% apparent attenuation)
OG: 1043
FG: 1009
ABV: 4.4%
IBU: 24
COLOUR: golden amber
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Setup. Several days earlier I measured, milled, and bagged-up the grainbill, which made it easy to get right to work today.

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Cereal Mash. The corn must be boiled separately to help convert the starch to fermentable sugar. I included some smoked malt to increase the enzymatic activity.

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Main Mash. Nailed it! Look how it’s such a small beer, the initial grainbill doesn’t even reach my built-in thermometer.

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Boiling Cereal Mash. The boiling corn and smoked malt produces an interesting smell. Like eating tamales around a campfire or something. Certainly different from regular brewday aromas.

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Blending the Cereal Mash into the Main Mash.

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Measuring the Invert Syrup. As you can see, my homemade invert syrup is dark, but not nearly to the intensity of #3 or Brewers Caramel. I’m not an expert on this, but perhaps mine is in the #2 range?

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Vorlauf. Look how lightly-coloured it is. It barely smells of anything too. Just a hint of malt, whiff of smoke, and surprisingly almost no corn aroma.

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There's Albus, helping me monitor the sparge process.

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Weighing the hops.

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Resealing the hops. Yeah, I’m totally just showing-off my newest toy.

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Boil. The keggle is technically much too big for a 5 gallon batch, but I wanted a roaring boil for maximum kettle caramelization without fear of a messy boil-over. I liked how this went, and will surely repeat the technique.

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Chilling. Lately I’ve been racking from the boil kettle into the smaller (sanitized) kettle. My chiller fits better, and works faster since the kettle isn’t hot.

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Success! You can see the deep amber colour, partly from the dark sugar and partly from kettle caramelization.

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by Dave S » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:36 pm

seymour wrote:...except for:

• Maclay probably used pregelatinized flaked maize, which can be conveniently included in a regular mash with relatively high single-infusion temperature. I used regular cracked corn which required a preliminary cereal mash to gelatinize. I have a personal theory that popcorn is less genetically modified, and thus a little closer to old-fashioned native grain compared with modern agribusiness "King Corn", but I digress...

• There’s a lot of debate about the authenticity of smoked malt. I realize Scottish brewers seldom used smoked malt, but I'm trying to use up mine, so I included 5% of the grainbill in the cereal mash. It was beechwood as opposed to peat, but gimme a break.

• As a result of my cereal mash addition, this resembles a popular German two-step hochkurz* mash schedule. If Maclay in fact conducted separate cereal mashes--like most American and European lager breweries as well--then my technique might be more authentic than I thought.

• Maclay used Goldings & Styrian Goldings hops but I'm substituting Flyer, a new bolder UK hop. Why? 'Cuz they rock, that's why.

Anyway, here it is:
Pretty well everything then, Seymour :-D . Nevertheless your brewday and recipe look/sound spot on.
Best wishes

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:13 pm

Dave S wrote:
seymour wrote:This adjunct-heavy brew is an authentic reproduction of 1965 Maclay 80/- Export Ale, except for...
Pretty well everything then, Seymour. Nevertheless your brewday and recipe look/sound spot on.
Touché. :)

However, it is the same grains and percents, ABV, IBU, attenuation and appearance. My goal was to demonstrate how fun it can be to start with an historic example, then proceed to make it your own. "Know the rules so you know when you're breaking them", that kinda thing.

Besides, the brewmaster of Caledonian, the last remaining historic Edinburgh brewery says they've been using a small percentage of smoked malts for decades, so the jury is still out...

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:45 am

After lengthy cold-conditioning, tonight I tested the final gravity at 1009, then racked to a sanitized corny keg with just a little priming sugar. I'm still working out the right fittings to serve this through my new beer engine, C02 cask breather and all...I think this beer would be an excellent candidate.

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I poured the hydrometer sample into this glass for a taste. Can you believe how clear and lightly-coloured it is?! I looked back at my recipe and brewday pics, and I simply can't believe it. I really expected a darker amber. Obviously my homemade dark invert syrup didn't contribute nearly as much darkness as I thought. Kettle sugars are still a mystery to me.

Tastes great though: light and crisp, a very faint trace of corn but only because I remember putting it there, a very faint trace of smoke but only because I remember putting it there, mild maltiness balanced by subtle grassy hops, with much more hop presence in the dry aftertaste actually. I did not expect this beer to seem so very refined. The recipe looked like an adjunct-laden American Cream Ale or something, but it tastes like a classic Kolsch, almost as clean as a Pilsener. No lie!

This recipe taught me a lesson. I brewed it as an experiment, because the recipe looks so unlike everyone's idea of true-to-style Scottish ale. It's nothing like the modern commercial examples I've tasted, but it's still an eminently drinkable, well-balanced, classy session ale despite the "inferior" ingredients. For you thrifty brewers out there, this is a crazy cheap beer to brew, and would be a great "light beer drinker" option to keep around for parties, etc, alongside your bigger/browner/bolder masterpieces.

I can't wait to try this again with some carbonation, or at least pumped through a sparkler for some creamy foam.

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by charliemartin » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:03 pm

Hi Seymour,
I used to enjoy Maclay's ales back in the 80s when I visited Edinburgh occasionally. The recipe obviously changed quite a bit from the 1965 version because I recall them being much darker.
Interesting recipe and process though.

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:18 pm

charliemartin wrote:I used to enjoy Maclay's ales back in the 80s when I visited Edinburgh occasionally. The recipe obviously changed quite a bit from the 1965 version because I recall them being much darker.
Interesting recipe and process though.
Cool, thanks for the shout out! Yeah, I thought it should be darker too.

I bet the key is the 13.5% Mix of Sugars (#1 Invert, DCS, Malt Extract, Brewer's Caramel) part of their recipe. My syrup was probably like their #1 Invert, but their Brewer's Caramel portion would've contributed MUCH more dark tint.

Did you enjoy Maclay ales in the 80s? Do you recall them tasting smoky at all? For that matter, do you think Caledonian ales taste smoky?

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Post by Barley Water » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:04 pm

Have you done any side by side comparisons between the popcorn you are using in this batch and say flaked maize? I am currently using ground corn meal when I want to add corn and a couple of years ago we did an unofficial comparison taste test on a couple of CAP's one with the flakes and one with the ground corn and we thought the corn was better. Of course, it wasn't a tightly controlled test and yeah, we both had a snoot full before we got around to the comparison. My theory (which I'm sticking to) is that a ceral mash is much like a decotion so the better flavor was attributed to that plus likely the ground corn was fresher however to be honest the difference was very little. Pretty soon I'll be doing an English IPA which has about 1 1/2 pounds of corn in a 5 gallon batch. I'll swap out the flakes I used last year and do the slow cooker ceral mash thing on the ground corn since it's so easy. By the way, I like what corn does to beer; tends to add a subtle sweet flavor and tend to use it to lighten up brews.
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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:28 pm

Barley Water wrote:Have you done any side by side comparisons between the popcorn you are using in this batch and say flaked maize? I am currently using ground corn meal when I want to add corn and a couple of years ago we did an unofficial comparison taste test on a couple of CAP's one with the flakes and one with the ground corn and we thought the corn was better. Of course, it wasn't a tightly controlled test and yeah, we both had a snoot full before we got around to the comparison. My theory (which I'm sticking to) is that a ceral mash is much like a decotion so the better flavor was attributed to that plus likely the ground corn was fresher however to be honest the difference was very little. Pretty soon I'll be doing an English IPA which has about 1 1/2 pounds of corn in a 5 gallon batch. I'll swap out the flakes I used last year and do the slow cooker ceral mash thing on the ground corn since it's so easy. By the way, I like what corn does to beer; tends to add a subtle sweet flavor and tend to use it to lighten up brews.
Great comments, Barley Water, and I agree about the potential benefits of corn in brewing. I think this is one of those brewing techniques which is unfairly villianized. Sure, most mass-produced American light lagers taste terrible, but this isn't the reason. That dreaded DMS "creamed corn" flaw is seldom actually from corn, right?

I've used flaked corn, store-bought grits, organic corn meal of various coarseness, corn syrup, and I've ground my own corn. The only thing I haven't tried yet is the popped popcorn method, but I plan to.

To answer your question, I have done a side-by-side, sorta. You remember my Brett Cream Ale which won a contest? Well, my version used cracked corn but we used flaked corn in the commercial brew for simplicity. Of course I think mine was ever-so-slightly more complex, but that's probably foolish pride more than any objective measurable difference (either way the corn was only 5% of the grainbill in an aged all-brett beer; I don't truly believe I can taste such a difference.) :)

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by Hanglow » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:41 pm

Besides, the brewmaster of Caledonian, the last remaining historic Edinburgh brewery says they've been using a small percentage of smoked malts for decades, so the jury is still out...
Where did you hear/read that Seymour?


I remember reading some of Rons info on Maclays, their recipes for their 60/70/80 supposedly remained remarkably unchanged for many years until the early 90s when they went with just pale malt, crystal and wheat. I only started drinking beer in the mid 90s so only vaguely remember their beers, but they were very good from what I can remember of my teenage drinking exploits. They now run a number of good beer bars here and retain the name and the one brewpub they own occasionally brews Maclays branded beers but they aren't the same from what I can remember

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:09 pm

Hanglow wrote:
Besides, the brewmaster of Caledonian, the last remaining historic Edinburgh brewery says they've been using a small percentage of smoked malts for decades, so the jury is still out...
Where did you hear/read that Seymour?
The New Brewer, 1999, Volumes 16-17, Journal of the Institute for Fermentation and Brewing Studies

Believe me, I was as surprised as you. I was firmly in the AUTHENTIC-SCOTTISH-ALES-NEVER-CONTAINED-PEAT-SMOKED-MALT camp until I saw this evidence to the contrary. Caledonian co-owner/brewmaster Russell Sharp (yeah, same guy who went on to found Innis & Gunn with his sons and is tarnishing his legacy nowadays by trash-talking BrewDog...but I digress) shared the Caledonian 80/- recipe which apparently always contained 5% smoke malt. That's not much, though, and they use a low-phenol type, so it really doesn't punch you in the face or anything. Even so, it's inaccurate to say ALL the peat smoke character is yeast derived in this prominant case of commercial Scottish ale.

Here's what I'm starting to think: Ron Pattinson and the rest are right. In general, commercial Scottish brewers throughout most of industrial-era brewing history probably never intentionally called for peat-smoked malt. If Scottish brewers ever did, that would've been long ago in the age of yore when their native malts were dried with their native peat furnaces, but the murky imagined past isn't a strong foundation to design a modern beer style around. That said, Caledonian is the last of the historic Edinburgh breweries still operating, so we can't totally dismiss them. They've apparently been using peat-smoked malt at least since Sharp revived the company in 1987, which is more modern than Pattinson and other beer scholars primarily focus on. If someone knows better, please correct me.

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by Hanglow » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:00 pm

Fair enough - I've never got a hint of peatyness from that beer at all although I haven't had it in ages, also I doubt my tasting ability is particularly good :o

I'd have thought that even if it didn't contribute to the flavour much then they might have made more of its inclusion from a marketing perspective. It would really have set it apart from other beers of its type

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Post by charliemartin » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:40 am

Seymour,
I would have to agree with Hanglow. I can't say I have ever noticed any smokiness in any Scottish beers I have drunk, but then I have never really been looking for it. It's been quite a while since I tasted Caledonian 80 /- so perhaps I need to try it again.

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Post by seymour » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:09 pm

On tap now in my cellar, and tasting lovely. C'mon over, mates!

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Post by timothy » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:43 am

Looks lovely!

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Re: SEYMOUR 80/- (A Surprising Eighty Shilling Scottish Ale)

Post by seymour » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:21 am

Here's a picture of the final kegged version, which is very nearly gone. It dropped very clear with great head retention and lace, as you can see. It has nice balanced bittersweet flavours: malty sweet with some subtle corn sweetness too, in a good way, hoppier than expected with a nice round mouthfeel.

If this is authentic--which I think it is--Scots were brewing and drinking pretty well in the mid-1960s. It's sure tastier than mass-market American beers of the same period.

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