Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:15 pm

I don't about words of wisdom ;)

To get the same ratio of bitterness to aroma you're going to want to stick to about a 50 minute boil. Obviously you multiply all your ingredients by 2.3 for the 23 litre batch. With a 10 litre pot, I'd be looking for 8 litres at end of boil. This should allow for evaporation and hop losses without having to have the pot filled to the brim. Putting the calculations through Beer Engine, you'll want 2 x 454g pots in the boil. I've not read Dave Lines' book but if he's talking about steeping rather than boiling what I'd do is add those hops at flame out and leave for 10 minutes before cooling the wort.
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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by Providence » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:55 pm

Thanks a lot OSB.

I note that you're doing Burton Bridge Summer Ale. I've just made a batch of that. I added 30gms of Pilgrim hops made as a tea and 200gms of Demerara and it is very good. Pilgrim were recomended in the absence of Target. Very good spicy hop flavour but no good if you're not into the Target 'bite'. :D

I'll be reporting back on the Holland and Barrett thread but of course referring people over here for the technique.

I'm looking forward to many part boil experiments in the coming months!

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by Providence » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:35 pm

Forgot to say, I also used 500gms Spraymalt and 500gms brewing sugar in the Burton Bridge.

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:05 pm

GWs recipe for BB Summer Ale (now renamed Golden Delicious) uses Challenger and Styrian Goldings. Mine is from the kit but I'm really surprised how good it is - much better than any other kit I've done. I'll definitely be doing it again for next summer as either an extract or a full-mash brew. I may need to cycle up to the Bridge Inn and give it a good sampling first though so I'll know if mine is close ;)
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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by WishboneBrewery » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:07 pm

OldSpeckledBadger wrote:I may need to cycle up to the Bridge Inn and give it a good sampling first though so I'll know if mine is close ;)
*ahem* all in the name of research... :roll:
Good luck with your 'Flavour Profiling' ;)

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:18 pm

pdtnc wrote:*ahem* all in the name of research... :roll:
Obviously research. I don't do it because I enjoy it. :^o

Mind you, I've ridden back from Burton in some "interesting" states on more than one occasion ;)
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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by Providence » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:21 pm

OldSpeckledBadger wrote:GWs recipe for BB Summer Ale (now renamed Golden Delicious) uses Challenger and Styrian Goldings. Mine is from the kit but I'm really surprised how good it is - much better than any other kit I've done. I'll definitely be doing it again for next summer as either an extract or a full-mash brew. I may need to cycle up to the Bridge Inn and give it a good sampling first though so I'll know if mine is close ;)
Blimey! Never though of that. Just do the kit and not fiddle with it? Surely not! :D

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:41 pm

Providence wrote:Blimey! Never though of that. Just do the kit and not fiddle with it? Surely not! :D
I only did some kits to get a stock built up whilst I sorted out what I was going to buy/build for extract and full-mash brewing. I doubt I'll do any more kits.
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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by daveyk » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:49 pm

I know I'm coming in at the end of a long conversation. But thanks VERY much for the no-nonsense recipe and advice. This is exactly what I need to try the next step on from kit brewing.

I tried an extract brew a while back and was really disappointed by the results.... the only brew I've done that needs to go down the sink. (just a strong aftertaste). Anyway. will try this one, thanks again.

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by WishboneBrewery » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:05 pm

OldSpeckledBadger wrote:I only did some kits to get a stock built up whilst I sorted out what I was going to buy/build for extract and full-mash brewing. I doubt I'll do any more kits.
In comparrison to my Extract Brews the Kit brews are pretty rough!
The two Extract Stouts I've made have been bloody fantastic, I hope I can replicate and improve on those with AG.
I Just need to get this carbonation thing cracked since AG!?

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by Providence » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:00 pm

Providence wrote:First of all thanks for this recipe/technique OSB.

I currently have a brew going using 1260gms of Holland and Barratt LME and substituting a Styrian/Kent Goldings hop mix. Although it's nowhere near the bottling stage I am already impressed with the amount of hoppiness that your part boil technique has imparted and am thinking that I'm going to like the brew.

I have a 10 litre pot into which I can put about 9 litres of liquid to boil. I was wondering if I could use this to scale up to a full 23 litre brew length?

If so, the scale up would involve 7 x 454gm jars of H&B LME. I wondered how many of these should be placed in the boil? Will I be able to scale up the amount of hops (I used 15gms Styrian and 10gms Kent pellets in the 10 litre length) and would the 50 minute boil be enough?

It struck me that the technique seems so good for hop utilisation, I might want to try adapting some of Dave Lines' recipes for part boil extract. Would you translate his hop additions into say 50 minute boil where he says boil and steep a separate hop tea for the second lot?

A lot of questions I know but your words of wisdom would be very much appreciated!
I have just tried this brew and I've got to say that it is very good. Thanks OSB, this part boil is one of the best things I've ever made!

Within the next week or so I'm going to scale it up with minor adjustments. I am making these adjustments because by sheer accident this brew tastes similar to Brakspeare Special Bitter. If I was doing it exactly the same as the original 10 litre length I would scale up as follows:-

25 litre brew length.

7 x 454gms H & B LME
250gms Crystal Malt
45gms Styrian/25gms Golding Pellets
100gms Molasses
200gms Demerara

Following your earlier advice I would place 2 x H & B LME in the boil pot.

Checking Dave Line's AG Brakspeare recipe I intend to fiddle as follows:-

Substitute 225gms of Soft Dark Sugar for the Demerara.
Lower the Molasses to 60gms.
Use 8 x H & B LME.

If you're around OSB, can you let me know if you would still put 2 jars into the boil or up it to 3? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:37 pm

I'd leave it at 2 jars otherwise you'll significantly reduce your hop utilisation.
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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by Providence » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:47 am

Thanks a lot OSB. Two it is.

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by gratefuldave54 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:59 pm

Hi OSB, I'm just about to take my first steps in extract brewing and think I ought to start with this simple recipe first. I have an 18 litre capacity stockpot so could you upscale the recipe for me please to 23 litres. My next one after that will be the Old Speckled Hen clone so if it's not too much trouble could you please upscale that recipe for me too. Cheers and thanks in advance - Dave.

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Re: Request for a simple one hop brew recipe

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:26 pm

Dave, are you using LME or DME?
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