Brew Your Own British Real Ale (3rd Edition)- Graham Wheeler

[MashBag]

I have the 2009. Not in there.
What makes you think it is in any of them?

[NeilE1970]

Hi Mashbag,
From what he was talking about regarding the book and said that the deauchars ipa was a good new recipe. Maybe I was wrong to think he meant it a good new recipe in the book…or even in the book at all.

[NeilE1970]

I recently got my copy from amazon, and compared it with the older version Graham wrote in1998, and note that he no longer uses mild ale malt inthe Hook Norton recipes or flaked maize, or maltose syrup.The new book is well set up, but I will stick with his old book, as I think those adjuncts were great flavours.Deuchars IPA was agood new recipe.

Here it is …talking about the book then the Deuchars.

[Jim]

I also have the 3rd edition dated 2009 - no Deuchars IPA in it. It must be in the subsequent edition he wrote several years later.

[soupdragon]

Brew your own British real ale 3rd edition reprinted in 2010 has the recipe.
ISBN 978-1-85249-258-8

Cheers Tom

[Doreblade]

Its in my 3rd edition under Caledonian Deuchars IPA.

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[MashBag]

Its in my 3rd edition under Caledonian Deuchars IPA.

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Good spot that man.

[Jim]

Its in my 3rd edition under Caledonian Deuchars IPA.

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You're absolutely right! I missed that - I was looking under 'D'.

[MashBag]

So did I

[Cobnut]

Not in my 1998 copy.

[MashBag]

DO you want me to post you the page with some sticky tape ?

[JamesF]

Resurrecting this thread rather than starting a new one...

I've just bought the 3rd edition as it came up for much cheapness. I already have previous editions, one with a white cover from 2001 which is looking more than a bit dog-eared these days, and one with a cream cover that predates that which I "retired" because it was on the point of falling apart. Can't find that first one at the moment which is irritating, but it will be somewhere on my bookshelves I guess.

Anyhow, I notice that some of the recipes have changed quite significantly between the later two editions, not just in proportions of fermentables, but in some cases also the amounts and types of hops. In one case I noticed that Fuggles and Goldings had been switched around as bittering and aroma hops and the total amounts had been reduced. Is that generally considered to be a reflection of brewers changing their beers over time?

Shame to see that some recipes have disappeared, but the addition of others that I've not seen before is welcome, particularly some for beers from Exmoor Ales and Cotleigh Brewery (recently shut down, bought out, and renamed Nuttycombe Brewery but still brewing the Cotleigh beers amongst others). They're both only a couple of miles down the road and I might even be able to check the Nuttycombe recipes as they publish their brewing calendar and I often see sacks of ingredients in the car park waiting to be moved indoors. Last week it was some Crisp malts if I recall correctly. I have been tempted to wander in and ask if they'd be willing to piggyback one or two things on their orders for me.

James

[MashBag]

James,
That close... I would certainly ask.
You never know, what might come of it.
I did similar with bread flour.

As for recipe creep in the latter books.. yeah.. I think it adds an authenticity. I know stuff changes in my recipes. So why not anyone else's. And it proves he was brewing them, got just generating content as so many of today's publishers.

[bitter_dave]

As for recipe creep in the latter books.. yeah.. I think it adds an authenticity. I know stuff changes in my recipes. So why not anyone else's. And it proves he was brewing them, got just generating content as so many of today's publishers.

And also the recipes used by breweries change too, or more information becomes available about what they put in their beers, which may have impacted on later recipes. The original recipes were based on the information in the Real Almanacs published published by Camra, and sometimes recipes changed between editions (London Pride drops the flaked maize, for example), or are less vague in a later edition (they report which are the late hop). In much later editions I'm guessing breweries were putting details about their ingredients on their websites, which may have changed over time.