Brewcrafter25

[davew]

Has anybody seen the brewcrafter25 looks a bit like a posh biab type system. Not to badly priced @ €499

http://www.brewcrafterstore.com/


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[aamcle]

Mmm... no pictures or video ::(

Aamcle

[Goulders]

Yes there are if you follow the link and scroll down

[oktaneza]

Looks really good... I must admit this is just up my alley and a step up from a buffalo boiler and nylon bag. Looks alot neater, has a pump, and will do about the same volume as my buffalo with less mess. Im definitely interested. Anyone ever seen/heard or tested this?

Video 1 - The Kit
https://vimeo.com/162180985

Video 2 - A brew
https://vimeo.com/163066959

[vacant]

If you buy one, are you going to tick the option that let's them hard-code your name into their web page for the "XXX bought one" pop up - David hedburg and Luke T N Mitchell?

[Donald]

Hmm it does make a Braumeister look annoyingly overpriced, even when expecting a premium for being the best on the market.

Anyway, its good competition to see more and more of these stainless eBiab type machines - and I'm sure they all make great beer!

[oktaneza]

Its pretty much a basic braumeister for 1/3 the price. Clearly not as many bells and whistles, but you can step mash manually, you have re-circulation and you get a wort chiller as well. So all in all a good package. Pretty much a glorified BIAB

[aamcle]

BIAB with extra cleaning, seriously the BrewEasy, GrainFather and even the BM (upside down) could all be called BIAB variants.

Aamcle

[Fil]

Less sophisticated than the other offerings imho, it looks more of a challenge to upgrade the limited controller than the bm or gf, and more a collection of off the shelf bits than a new concept, but more than capable of brewing a fine beer im sure.

[oktaneza]

So I use a buffalo electric kettle, and a nylon bag for my BIAB. The step mashes I have tried have almost always ended in tears, largely because I cannot circulate easily the wort at the bottom of the kettle and I scorch the element. As a result the kettle struggles with a rolling boil which leads to all kinds of other issues. I guess I could change the tap and create a pump to do it but then Im just trying to build a version of the Brewcrafter. I also dont have a good sense of the temp (I have a probe at the top of the wort) but its up to 10C different in parts of the kettle. Im seriously tempted.

[Fil]

So I use a buffalo electric kettle, and a nylon bag for my BIAB. The step mashes I have tried have almost always ended in tears, largely because I cannot circulate easily the wort at the bottom of the kettle and I scorch the element. As a result the kettle struggles with a rolling boil which leads to all kinds of other issues. I guess I could change the tap and create a pump to do it but then Im just trying to build a version of the Brewcrafter. I also dont have a good sense of the temp (I have a probe at the top of the wort) but its up to 10C different in parts of the kettle. Im seriously tempted.

may i suggest you mash in @ circa 71c turn off the power and wrap the whole thing up in an old sleeping bag and pile coats on top for 90 uninterrupted mins, if you drop more than 4c i would be supprised and its way less hassle.

£shops sell cheap closed foam ground mats this time of year

to increase the ferocity of the boil, insulation will help again or you can partially lid or float a small bowl in the boil to reduce the surface area. a hop spider has the same effect and lets me maintain an active boil of 80l in a 100l uninsulated thin skin pot with 1 x 3kw element switched on.

[Dave S]

BIAB with extra cleaning, seriously the BrewEasy, GrainFather and even the BM (upside down) could all be called BIAB variants.

Aamcle

I disagree in the case of the Grainfather which involves a Mash and a Sparge. You could I suppose do a full volume Mash but no Grainfather users that I know do it that way.

[soupdragon]

float a small bowl in the boil to reduce the surface area. a hop spider has the same effect and lets me maintain an active boil

I suffer from limp boils, sounds like I need to see a doctor. What type of bowl do you use? I thought it'd sink? And is the Chinese hop spider really as good at helping with the boil?

Cheers. Tom

[oktaneza]

So I use a buffalo electric kettle, and a nylon bag for my BIAB. The step mashes I have tried have almost always ended in tears, largely because I cannot circulate easily the wort at the bottom of the kettle and I scorch the element. As a result the kettle struggles with a rolling boil which leads to all kinds of other issues. I guess I could change the tap and create a pump to do it but then Im just trying to build a version of the Brewcrafter. I also dont have a good sense of the temp (I have a probe at the top of the wort) but its up to 10C different in parts of the kettle. Im seriously tempted.

may i suggest you mash in @ circa 71c turn off the power and wrap the whole thing up in an old sleeping bag and pile coats on top for 90 uninterrupted mins, if you drop more than 4c i would be supprised and its way less hassle.

£shops sell cheap closed foam ground mats this time of year

to increase the ferocity of the boil, insulation will help again or you can partially lid or float a small bowl in the boil to reduce the surface area. a hop spider has the same effect and lets me maintain an active boil of 80l in a 100l uninsulated thin skin pot with 1 x 3kw element switched on.

Hi, I think you misunderstood me. Temp dropping is not a problem. I use Thermawrap loft insulation and the temp doesnt drop by more than a degree or 2. The issue I have is when I want to perform step mashes eg 55c, 68c, 75c over 90 mins. Why I find is that when the bag is in the kettle and I turn the boiler on, as there is nominal movement of worth I get scorching on the element. If I heat the wort without the bag / grains in the kettle I get not scorching, so there is something associated with having the bag in the kettle. This then has an impact on the boil.

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

Does the scorching happen before your step mash is complete?

You could draw off jugs of wort while you step mash, so that the wort at the bottom is properly recirculated. The bag acts as a very effective thermal barrier.