Red Ale Clone

[NickGv1]

Evenin all, just enjoying a bottle of St Peters Ruby Red, this is the second red I've had this week the other was Red Panther by the Panther Brewery Reepham http://www.pantherbrewery.co.uk/ both of them fabulous. I've done a trawl on the net for recipes a lot of which came up with Irish red ales which I don't thinks the same things as these 2. The other recipes have complex grain bills, as this will be my fifth AG I'm just trying to keep things simple. Anbody have good red ale recipes out there?
Ta in advance

[deanrpwaacs]

You could try this one.
It blew me away.

India Red Ale
Date:
Gyle Number:
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 6 lbs. 6.3 oz 2900 grams 49.8%
Munich Malt 20 EBC 5 lbs. 1.1 oz 2300 grams 39.5%
Crystal Malt 130 EBC 0 lbs. 11.9 oz 340 grams 5.8%
Crystal Malt, Dark 300 EBC 0 lbs. 8.0 oz 225 grams 3.9%
Black Malt 1300 EBC 0 lbs. 2.0 oz 57 grams 1%

Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Cascade Whole 5.7 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 2.0 oz 57 grams 33.3%
Cascade Whole 5.7 % 30 mins 0 lbs. 2.0 oz 57 grams 33.3%
Golding Whole 5.7 % 5 mins 0 lbs. 2.0 oz 57 grams 33.3%

Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.056
Final Gravity: 1.014
Alcohol Content: 5.5% ABV
Total Liquor: 34.1 Litres
Mash Liquor: 14.6 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 61 EBU
Colour: 81 EBC

Regards Dean.

[NickGv1]

I am right in saying its the crystal malt thats giving it the red colour?

[dave-o]

The small amount of black malt is more likely to be giving it the redness.

[NickGv1]

Many thanks for that!

[jasoncheung1986]

Hi. Thanks for the recipe. Will try and make this at the weekend. Is it single mash infusion at 66C? What yeast did you use?

[seymour]

Hi. Thanks for the recipe. Will try and make this at the weekend. Is it single mash infusion at 66C? What yeast did you use?

Did you end up brewing it? If so, how did it go? Which yeast did you pitch?

[jasoncheung1986]

[quote="seymour"][quote="jasoncheung1986"]Hi. Thanks for the recipe. Will try and make this at the weekend. Is it single mash infusion at 66C? What yeast did you use?[/quote]
Did you end up brewing it? If so, how did it go? Which yeast did you pitch?[/quote]

Hi. I altered the recipe a bit and generally toned everything down in the style of a best bitter. I was going to use Wyeast 1099 Whitbread but ended up using a yeast I got from my local microbrewery (Nottingham Brewery in Radford, Nottingham). I'm not sure what it is as they're very secretive about it. This is what I did.

Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.419 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.0 EBC) Grain 1 46.6 %
2.218 kg Munich Malt (25.0 EBC) Grain 2 42.7 %
0.220 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt Dark JC (240.0 EBC) Grain 4 4.2 %
0.262 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt JC (150.0 EBC) Grain 3 5.0 %
0.070 kg Black Malt (1300.0 EBC) Grain 5 1.3 %
75.000 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Whitbread Ale (Wyeast Labs #1099) [124.21 ml] Yeast 9 -
24.955 g Cascade [7.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 20.7 IBUs
24.955 g Cascade [7.80 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 15.9 IBUs
Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.047 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.044 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.3 %
Bitterness: 36.5 IBUs Calories: 408.1 kcal/l
Est Color: 36.7 EBC

This is what happened on brew day
http://wp.me/p2TrB0-1

Should be ready to rack this weekend...

[seymour]

Sounds tasty. How did the colour come out?

[jasoncheung1986]

Can't be sure yet as it's still very cloudy. I wanted a red colour but i'm not sure i got it. It's more brown at the moment! I think substituting black malt for roasted barley may give better results. Either that or use carared.

Are you going to try the original recipe?

[seymour]

...Are you going to try the original recipe?

Probably not, but like you, I'm always curious of which particular malts produce the red tint.

[jasoncheung1986]

ill continue to experiment!

[orlando]

Had a look at the pictures, nice blog. You mentioned you were a couple of gravity points short of the 1.038 you were looking for but looking at the hydro shot it looks closer to being 2 points OVER not under, are you sure?