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New brewery build 3B's

Post by likesbeer » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:35 pm

Well not sure what happened last night but I posted this yesterday and it seems to have vanished so second time lucky (probably hit ancel instead of submit #-o )

So to the point of the post, I started brewing at the begining of last year, kits, towards the end of the year I found an extract recipe which I fancied trying so had a go and decided that was much better than the kits. At the begining of this year having read lots on hear thought I would move to the dark side, AG. But said I wouldnt do it until my thesis was finished well its in and I graduate in Decemeber. So I can move to AG, but the kitchen is to small and the boss is starting to loose patients with all the brewing stuff and fermenting liquids (cider, wine, beer) all squirreled away under the stairs in the kitchen and any corner I can find.
So the solution a new shed which I started a few weeks ago, the outside is now finished and hopefully this weekend the inside will be done.
Some pics of the build to break up the words :D

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The start wooden framed floor for the base

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A bit of wall and the floor

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Fast forwardand the outside nearly done.

It is 4.5m x 2.5m it will be plasterboard lined and fully insulated and has double glasing, a small wood burning stove for the winter evenings and obviously power which I only have to run 150ft to get to it!
I'll post plans for the AG kit shortly, but I'll be keeping it simple.
Cheers for all you help tips and suggestions from many on this site without which I'm sure I wouldnt have got this far.

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by StrangeBrew » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:24 pm

Looking good! Keep the pics coming.

I see you've already insulated the greenhouse! :lol:

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by adm » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:49 pm

Nice shed!

Insulated, double glazed, big, wood burner....... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Now you just need to plumb some water in and there's no reason to ever go back in the house. Apart from to get fed.

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by likesbeer » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:13 pm

If I've got the beer in the shed hopefully she'll bring the food to me, alternativ I can pick tha cabages [-X in the veggy patch just in front.
The greenhouse is going to get moved to make way for a small shed/tool storage so that the whole shed/palace/brewery can be for me, best thing is that was the boses idea =D>
The water will be plumbed in as well, might even chuck a kitchen sink in as well. Water will be a hosepipe extension a bit heath robinson but should do the job, I can put some fixed pipework inside with a filter and run the hosepipe down and connect in, I already have one section half way down the garden so I could use a small hose to get to the veg so should be OK.

More pics will come in due course dont worry

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:25 pm

Looks good :) All you need to do now is learn the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' (re-read your 1st post) ;)
Best wishes

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by Scooby » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:39 pm

OldSpeckledBadger wrote:All you need to do now is learn the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' (re-read your 1st post) ;)
:roll: Some people [-X How did you miss the fact that the poor blokes wife has people missing off her ward.


Nice on likes beer 8)

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by likesbeer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:12 am

The problem with typing not paying attention to what you've typed and probably having a bear ( :D ) at the same time, it produces lots of spelling mistakes.
plus complete in-ability to spell and no word correcting it for you. The lazy society we live in today.....but hey ho! more time for beer :roll:

Please dont tell the hospital she's lost anyone she might get the sack, then I'll have to fork out for the shoes and perfume and have less for beer :oops:

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by WishboneBrewery » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:42 am

Makes me want to build a shed...! Just to see if I can :D

That hose pipe you are going to plumb up with, you'd be better getting some food grade Braided PVC than using regular garden hose.... to save you beer tasting like Garden Hose water!!! Mmmm :)

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by WishboneBrewery » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:45 am

A Shed question...

What stops the base of the shed slowly rotting from ground moisture, I realise it will be stood on blocks, but even so...??
Or am I missing the point of 'The Shed' being a temporary building?

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by Scooby » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:53 am

I've had a number of sheds over the years one was supported on treated bearers that showed no sign of rotting after 15yrs.

You need well treated bearers that are laid on free draining ground. A good layer of scalpings (type one crushed stone) is free draining, the gap between the scalpings and the shed base allows ventilation and stops rotting.

Some people lay a concrete slab and place the bearers on that but I don't think that's necessary strength wise, plus the bearers could be standing in water that has not drained away. My current shed is standing on railway sleepers just placed on free draining ground.

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by WishboneBrewery » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:14 pm

all things I'd have done without knowing...
I've always been a bit over-kill to be on the safe side :)

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by dubboy » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:44 pm

cool shed i have been thinking of building another shed,how much did it cost to build if you dont mind me asking?

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by boingy » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:19 pm

It's looking very nice, LB. Gratz.

One word of caution. Don't underestimate how hot a wood-burning stove will get. You need substantial fireproof insulation underneath it, a large clearance all around and a bit of thought into how the flue will exit the building. If you don't get this right you may find the wood-burner will burn a little more wood than you planned!

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by likesbeer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:32 pm

Cheers guys, the base of the shed is actually stood on small concrete pillars, there is a concrete base but it was very un-level.
So I built up 250mm x 250mm pads about 100mm high give or take to get them level.
The timbers are treated, clad on both sides with ply to allow for insulation between. As its off the ground and treated timber and well ventilated I dont think rotting will be an issue for at least 50 years.

Building it hasnt actually been that hard if you've got the tools. But thats easy for me to say as I have a friend who is a chippy and I was just lugged stuff about. That said I would be happy now to give it ago on my own.

Cost wise I recon about £700-£800 when finished, but its fully insulated £100 ish, ply top and bottom of floor not cheap stuff. So could be done cheaper as a simple shed. That said if you bought an el cheepo shed they are in the region of £800-£1000 for rubbish and it starts getting to several thousand for log cabin type structures. I saved on windows they were free so was the door, dontated by friends. I reckon by getting some of the timber from a reclaimers yard some further savings could have been made.

pdtnc, plumbing water to the shed now that keeps me up at night. My problem is the shed is 150ft from the house (a very long garden), I have an outside tap. The last thing I really wanted to do was dig a trench and lay a proper pipe and then some how tee into the house supply. Hence the hose pipe idea, however I have also been concerned about the quality of the water that will come out of it. I did think that one of the big inline filter type things would sort any problems is this a bad idea?
Cheap solutions suggestions would be appreciated guys thanks.

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Re: New brewery build 3B's

Post by likesbeer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:37 pm

Cheerrs boingy, planning to cast a small concrete slab to stand the wood burner on, will probably get the fire retardant type plasterboard for the nearest walls plus a health clearance. The flue will exit a wall rather than the roof and am planning to put a larger metal tube say 9" through first run the flue through that say 4" and insulate between the two with a heatproof material, say something like asbestos. However, as that stuff is banned I will need to find an alternative. I'm probably going to ask the friendly neighbour building to give me a hand at that point to make sure its OK. He wants to learn to brew so a friendly trade me thinks.

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