Lactic Acid - how much?

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Lactic Acid - how much?

Post by Lewy » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:51 pm

Hello,

AG#1 was a dark ale, no water treatment used bar Campden tab. Next though I'm planning a Pale Ale

According to Sutton and East Surrey Water my tap water has hardness of 212.5mg/l CaCO3 (or 85mg/l Ca). This I understand is way too alkaline to brew a Pale Ale, and I should be aiming for in the region of 25-30mg/l CaCO3.

I went to my local homebrew shop intending to buy some CRS but was talked out of it and walked out with Lactic Acid. So... how much Lactic Acid should I add to bring the pH down to the right level? I am having some trouble working this out. Does anyone know of a standard calculation to work this out? Homebrew shop said 3ml in mash, 6ml in sparge (for standard 23l brew)

I also have Epsom Salts and Gypsum, but will work that part out later

Thanks

Lewy

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Re: Lactic Acid - how much?

Post by GrowlingDogBeer » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:02 pm

You have the figure for the hardness of your water, this is not what you need though. This tells you hardness, not Alkalinity.

You need to know the alkalinity of your water, which to confuse things is also measured as mg/l CaCO3, they are 2 differennt things though.

You can test this yourself with a Salifert Testing kit which can be bought from here. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SALIFERT-CARBONAT ... 9310215870

Sorry about the long link, I can't work out how to do short ones.

Once you know that you can then work out how much CRS you need to adjust the water, sorry I don't know about Lactic Acid.

You can work out how much you need for the type of beer you want to make using the water treatment calculator here http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/water/water.html

You will find more info about water treatment in the Brewniversity here http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/home_brew_ ... atment.htm

Lewy

Re: Lactic Acid - how much?

Post by Lewy » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:13 pm

Thanks for the detailed response Steve, appreciated. Will duly follow the links and school myself.

I guess the crux of the matter for right now is, should I launch the Lactic and get some CRS, or can anyone unlock the Lactic numbers?

thx again

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Re: Lactic Acid - how much?

Post by Aleman » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:49 pm

None, Given the amount you will need to add you will be past the taste threshold of Lactic acid in the beer. . .Nice sour twang . . . great for Berliner Weise not so good for other beers.

The reason for using CRS is the taste thresholds are much higher and you are actually adding beneficial anions (chloride and sulphate)

Lewy

Re: Lactic Acid - how much?

Post by Lewy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:36 pm

ok thanks Aleman, will ditch the lactic acid, don't want my beer tasting like sore legs. Steve, I have just ordered the salifert kit and will take it from there. Just need some CRS now...

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