Bru'n Water help please

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Bru'n Water help please

Post by Norik » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:20 pm

I'm trying to use Bru'n Water for the first time, and I'd like a little help.
I finally received a copy of my water report a week or two back, and I've only just sat down to work with it. I may be misunderstanding it, but I don't think it has the info that Bru'n Water is asking for.
Can anyone help me out on this?

Water Report LINK

Cheers.
Last edited by Norik on Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by BenB » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:28 pm

That pdf appears corrupted. Try having a look at the BrunWater walk through... take a good 30 minutes to play around with it. It rapidly makes sense.....

Your water report may just lack alkalinity readings which can be obtained through a Salifert test kit.

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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Norik » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:57 pm

I've edited the link, hopefully that makes s difference.
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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by keith1664 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:40 am

That report doesn't seem terribly useful, I suggest you spend a few quid on a proper report from Wallybrew and a Salifert alkalinity test kit if you want to start messing with your water. At least then you'll know your start point.
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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Hanglow » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:45 am

you can try mph water calculator too, i prefer it to brun water

http://homebrewingphysics.blogspot.co.u ... water.html


incidentally there is a bit more info on your water here, for calcium, magnesium and hardness as caco3
http://www.scottishwater.co.uk/~/media/ ... 0data.ashx

you could also ask at Lerwick brewery what they do for water too, assuming you have the same supply of course

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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Norik » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:41 pm

Thanks for the help/advice.
I'll think about asking the Lerwick Brewery, but the first/only time I enquired about something with them, I was pretty much ignored, so not sure if I'll bother again.
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Where the Beer has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.



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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Matt12398 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:00 pm

Looking at the report, it doesn't look like a huge variation over the year in terms of maximum and minimum readings but you are relying on average values across the year. Like others have said, you're better off getting a report from Wallybrew and seeing what the water out of your own tap is coming out at. You could do it a couple times a year to see if there's a lot of variability.

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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Dennis King » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:41 pm

keith1664 wrote:That report doesn't seem terribly useful, I suggest you spend a few quid on a proper report from Wallybrew and a Salifert alkalinity test kit if you want to start messing with your water. At least then you'll know your start point.
Totally agree, then use the calculator in this site, it's more suited to British water than Bru'n water.

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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Norik » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:44 pm

Dennis King wrote:
keith1664 wrote:That report doesn't seem terribly useful, I suggest you spend a few quid on a proper report from Wallybrew and a Salifert alkalinity test kit if you want to start messing with your water. At least then you'll know your start point.
Totally agree, then use the calculator in this site, it's more suited to British water than Bru'n water.

Jim's Beerkit has a water calculator? Where can I find it?
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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by WallyBrew » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:50 pm

Norik wrote:

Jim's Beerkit has a water calculator? Where can I find it?
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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Norik » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:09 pm

Just a quick reply to say that they actually got back to me with info on their Water report.
pH 6.29
Nitrate <1
Calcium 19
Magnesium 3
Chloride 45.91
Sulphate 47.91
Alkalinity (CaCO3) 22

Targets for pale and bitters should be

Calcium 180 - 220
Magnesium 0 - 50
Chloride 150 - 250
Sulphate 250 - 450
Alkalinity 20 - 60

We add premixed salts called DWB to our beers (not lagers) to up the calcium, as this is important for the yeast.

We get our water from the same place, mine just has to spend a little extra time in a pipe. Next step is figuring out if/what I need to correct, and the best way to go about it.
Litany For Beer
I must drink the Beer.
Beer is the mind-killer.
Beer is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my Beer.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the Beer has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.



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"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Matt12398 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:56 pm

That looks like something straight out of a Murphy's recommendation.

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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Eric » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:09 pm

Matt12398 wrote:That looks like something straight out of a Murphy's recommendation.

Hardly Bru'n Water.
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Re: Bru'n Water help please

Post by Dave S » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:33 pm

Eric wrote:
Matt12398 wrote:That looks like something straight out of a Murphy's recommendation.

Hardly Bru'n Water.
Heaven forbid :lol:
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