Bath Ales Clone?
Bath Ales Clone?
I've always been a massive fan of Bath ales. I'd rate them over the majority of other ales I've ever tried.
I assume their distinct flavour is due to having their own yeast? It doesn't mention anything on the bottle and despite living down the road for four years i'd wrongly assumed Bath Ales was actually in Bath and not Bristol.
I'd be very interested in brewing a clone of any of their ales. No-where seems to do one. They've been around for 15 years I'd have thought GW would have worked one out by now
Back in my bristol days I drank a lot of Zero Degrees also. Can't find any clones of theirs either. Their IPA is amazing.
Cheers
Belter
I assume their distinct flavour is due to having their own yeast? It doesn't mention anything on the bottle and despite living down the road for four years i'd wrongly assumed Bath Ales was actually in Bath and not Bristol.
I'd be very interested in brewing a clone of any of their ales. No-where seems to do one. They've been around for 15 years I'd have thought GW would have worked one out by now
Back in my bristol days I drank a lot of Zero Degrees also. Can't find any clones of theirs either. Their IPA is amazing.
Cheers
Belter
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
Not tried any of these recipes but here are a 2 Gems & 1 Spa. Gem is probably my favourite beer so I will certainly be trying to clone it some time.
http://hopville.com/recipe/153628
http://www.hopandgrain.com/recipeSearch ... Ales%20Gem
http://www.hopandgrain.com/recipeSearch ... Ales%20SPA
http://hopville.com/recipe/153628
http://www.hopandgrain.com/recipeSearch ... Ales%20Gem
http://www.hopandgrain.com/recipeSearch ... Ales%20SPA
Rega
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
Jeltz wrote:Not tried any of these recipes but here are a 2 Gems & 1 Spa. Gem is probably my favourite beer so I will certainly be trying to clone it some time.
http://hopville.com/recipe/153628
http://www.hopandgrain.com/recipeSearch ... Ales%20Gem
http://www.hopandgrain.com/recipeSearch ... Ales%20SPA
Awesome! Thanks!
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
I bottled a biab Gem clone about 2 weeks ago and it's so close it's unbelievable!
I did a simpler version of the Gem with just Maris Otter, Wheat and two EKG additions. It's a bit lighter in colour but has more mouthfeel.
Really, really close to the original.
I used Danstar Nottingham yeast.
I did a simpler version of the Gem with just Maris Otter, Wheat and two EKG additions. It's a bit lighter in colour but has more mouthfeel.
Really, really close to the original.
I used Danstar Nottingham yeast.
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
Try this:
20litre brew
Maris Otter: 5.3kg
Wheat: 115g
90 minute boil
EKG 75 mins 5.5% aa 30 IBU 58g
EKG 10 mins 5.5.% aa 5 IBU 28g
20litre brew
Maris Otter: 5.3kg
Wheat: 115g
90 minute boil
EKG 75 mins 5.5% aa 30 IBU 58g
EKG 10 mins 5.5.% aa 5 IBU 28g
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
um... ok... what is it?Tarmac wrote:Try this:
20litre brew
Maris Otter: 5.3kg
Wheat: 115g
90 minute boil
EKG 75 mins 5.5% aa 30 IBU 58g
EKG 10 mins 5.5.% aa 5 IBU 28g
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
Anyone got any ideas on yeast? Hopville seems to recommend S-04. I doubt Bath Ales use S-04?
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
It's a simplified Bath Gem recipe....Belter wrote:um... ok... what is it?Tarmac wrote:Try this:
20litre brew
Maris Otter: 5.3kg
Wheat: 115g
90 minute boil
EKG 75 mins 5.5% aa 30 IBU 58g
EKG 10 mins 5.5.% aa 5 IBU 28g
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
Says on the post that the guy emailed the brewer at Bath Ales and has the yeast etc.
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
Nice one chap. Missed that thread!
Will give it a try sometime. The chocolate malt must be what gives it that little bit of colour I'm missing.
Will give it a try sometime. The chocolate malt must be what gives it that little bit of colour I'm missing.
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
To be honest although he's had word from the brewer that recipe put into Beersmith seems way off? The EBC is nowhere near as dark as I remember drinking it. I've searched the net it comes up as 36 on some forums. I have it listed as 17 with these percentages. Also the gravity should be 1.046 but I'm at 1.038.
Bath Ales Gem
Standard/Ordinary Bitter
Type: All Grain Date: 29/10/2012
Batch Size (fermenter): 25.00 l Brewer:
Boil Size: 34.98 l Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Electric Urn (10 Gal/40 L) - BIAB
End of Boil Volume 28.08 l Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 23.60 l Est Mash Efficiency 75.6 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
3.95 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 91.0 %
0.17 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 2 4.0 %
0.17 kg Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118.2 EBC) Grain 3 4.0 %
0.04 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 4 1.0 %
29.28 g Challenger [7.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 22.5 IBUs
21.69 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 2.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg Whitbread Ale (Wyeast Labs #1099) [124.21 ml] Yeast 7 -
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.038 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.6 %
Bitterness: 24.7 IBUs Calories: 427.1 kcal/l
Est Color: 17.0 EBC
Think I need some more practise with beersmith
Bath Ales Gem
Standard/Ordinary Bitter
Type: All Grain Date: 29/10/2012
Batch Size (fermenter): 25.00 l Brewer:
Boil Size: 34.98 l Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Electric Urn (10 Gal/40 L) - BIAB
End of Boil Volume 28.08 l Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 23.60 l Est Mash Efficiency 75.6 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
3.95 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 91.0 %
0.17 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 2 4.0 %
0.17 kg Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118.2 EBC) Grain 3 4.0 %
0.04 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 4 1.0 %
29.28 g Challenger [7.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 22.5 IBUs
21.69 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 2.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg Whitbread Ale (Wyeast Labs #1099) [124.21 ml] Yeast 7 -
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.038 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.6 %
Bitterness: 24.7 IBUs Calories: 427.1 kcal/l
Est Color: 17.0 EBC
Think I need some more practise with beersmith
Last edited by Belter on Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Bath Ales Clone?
It's stronger in bottles than it is on draught, so that may explain the difference?