Sorry, it should have been sodium carbonates, or base.
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- Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:54 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
- Replies: 25
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Re: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
- Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:07 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
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Re: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
Hi PeeBee, I think we've reached the point where we differ in opinions. I don't think you will find any peer reviewed paper on the insolubility of sodium salts, I think anyone capable of doing such a review wouldn't waste their time. My quick search revealed only that sodium bicarbonate was more sol...
- Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:35 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
- Replies: 25
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Re: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
But ... the impact of sodium ions on carbonate exiting the water (as insoluble calcium carbonate) is what I'm hoping to understand from this thread. :thumbsup: That shouldn't cause problems, acid can be used to bring alkalinity down to the desired level for the type of beer being brewed. What canno...
- Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:35 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
- Replies: 25
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Re: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
Why would Mr Brungard's program determine that all hardness in that water is temporary? It is likely that temporary hardness will be somewhere near half of the total hardness. The given analysis can't be exact and the figure for alkalinity is a primary suspect. However, sodium sulphate is only rarel...
- Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:05 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
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Re: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
I've added milliequivalents to your given ppm values. Calcium: 30.33ppm (1.51mEq) Magnesium: 6.27ppm (0.52mEq) Sodium: 50.35ppm (2.19mEq) Chloride: 50.19ppm (1.42mEq) Sulphate: 38.06ppm (0.79mEq) ... Alkalinity: 154.67 ppm as HCO 3 (2.53mEq) What a lot of Sodium! Still, I don't think it's unusual do...
- Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:37 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
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Re: High Alkalinity Water, High Sodium, Only Moderate Water Hardness
Temporary Hardness plus Permanent Hardness equals Total Hardness? Yes. Alkalinity plus Permanent Hardness equals Total Hardness? Not when the carbonate or bicarbonate is bonded with sodium. The are few places in Britain where such alkalinity exists naturally. Ion exchange water softeners replace cal...
- Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:13 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
- Replies: 24
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Re: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
Thus far the emphasis has been on hardness and alkalinity, but without a grasp of what those might be, water treatment can turn into a jungle, a tangle of seemingly unconnected strands that make little sense, not helped by foreign opinions of how British brewers made their beers. Home brewers with h...
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:55 pm
- Forum: Grain Brewing
- Topic: Making up short brew length
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1537
Re: Making up short brew length
To answer your initial question, yes, you can. My last runnings are frequently less than 1005, but little value is obtained at such low levels. As said, the reason for stopping at a particular gravity is to limit pH increasing above the level when unwanted products are released. My target is to be <...
- Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:22 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
- Replies: 24
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Re: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
It has to be said that not all soft water will have low alkalinity. There are some waters in UK, and more in US, where the calcium and magnesium levels are low, but have sodium present in alkaline (carbonate) form. Fortunately such water isn't commonly found in UK. Soft water is something I've littl...
- Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:46 am
- Forum: Beer Recipes
- Topic: Green hop recipe?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1327
Re: Green hop recipe?
Oddly enough (now that's a scary start) I came across a "green hop beer" story recently: Green Hop Beer Flippin' heck ... it's that Brian Yorston chappie again! [Eric, where are you ... ] Up to the eyes with second derivatives of third order polynomials for alkalinity of soft water for comparison w...
- Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:57 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
- Replies: 24
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Re: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
EquivPoint.jpg The above was snipped from a page from https://chem.libretexts.org/ to describe better than I can, the equivalence point on the titration curve. That is the point wanted, and at what pH that titration suggest it was. When alkalinity in supply water is titrated using acid, in this cas...
- Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:03 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
- Replies: 24
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Re: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
A sample of my water was tested using a Salifert KH kit producing a figure of 240 mg/l as CaCO3. 750 ml was then titrated using CRS, and the findings entered into Excel and using the Chart Wizard, displayed a trendline. It was thought that 1ml of CRS would eliminate all alkalinity, but it didn't qui...
- Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:50 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
- Replies: 24
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Re: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
My supply water is hard, it comes from a well in magnesian limestone, bored in 1841, after the cholera outbreak in Sunderland a few years earlier. The town was a major shipbuilder and thriving port with insufficient clean water for its population. Fortunately, a solution lay less than 200 feet down,...
- Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:14 pm
- Forum: Grain Brewing
- Topic: Belgium Stout?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2739
Re: Belgium Stout?
No, the story doesn't fit well with the real history, I think at some point the facts must have been bent slightly to fit. Didn't Guinness or some other brewery quite recently produce an Antwerp Stout to commemorate the occasion? I seem to recall something, but it might be my own confusion about the...
- Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:46 pm
- Forum: Brewing Liquor
- Topic: British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34426
British Waters, Hardness, Alkalinity, TDS and Treatment.
Britain is comparatively small compared with the nation from where most current brewing software emanates. We have common latitudes only with its most northerly State, Alaska. For centuries weather systems have passed over Great Britain in just a few hours. Areas that were once dessert have become l...