Maltose syrup replacement

[bloodoaf]

Hi all, I have started all grain brewing about 8 months ago after a love hate relationship with kits more off than on for 20 years. What a revelation! I have had beer at least as good if not better than pub beer since the off. I have found Wheeler's books excellent but as has been pointed out in other posts, some of his listed ingredients are no longer available, and it has been suggested that maltose syrup can be replaced with flaked maize. My question for the experts here is what ratio is flaked maize employed to replace the maltose syrup? Is it gram for gram?
Some recipies in the Wheeler books call for maltose syrup and flaked maize?! Do they have different characteristics in the finished beer?
Cheers and good health, Bloodoaf.

[mysterio]

Hmm, I wonder if Wheeler is talking about barley syrup, a cheap, flavourless adjunct that was/is used by some brewers. If so, this is available to homebrewers (try http://www.hopshopuk.com and search for barley syrup).

Flaked maize or corn is quite different from maltose so I can't imagine why it would be substituted, apart from the fact that it is has no malt flavour, however it does have a distinct taste of its own.

What recipe are you doing? If you post it i'm sure we could help you with substitutions & tips etc.

[RabMaxwell]

Hello Bloodoaf i have always substituted with flaked maize i think the beers are even better with flaked rather than maltose syrup anyway. Just substitute g for g it's near enough or if you use a program like promash use that to calculate it.

[bloodoaf]

Hi, thanks for the replies. So is maltose syrup simply barley syrup?

[RabMaxwell]

Made from Maize as far as i know.

[Scooby]

I did a search for this as it has been asked before, it was generally thought that maltose syrup can be replaced with flaked maize, from which it is derived. Maltose

[bloodoaf]

Hi Guys, thanks for the posts. I am brewing Wheelers Adnams Southwold Bitter tomorrow, 3400 Pale malt, 75 chocolate, and will replace 470 maltose syrup with 470 of flaked maize.
This is one of my favourite beers so I have high hopes for it.
Thanks all.

Bloodoaf.

[Vossy1]

Is it a straght swap flaked maize for maltose syrup?

Ie, weight for weight

[bloodoaf]

I hope so as I brewed it yesterday!

[Vossy1]

I'm sure it'll be fine Bloodoaf

I'm looking at doing a stout at the weekend which has maltose syrup as one of the ingredients...that's why I'm asking

I phoned the local HBS and they don't stock it and suggested abarley syrup instead!

[bloodoaf]

I did the recipe for Wheelers Adnams Southwold Bitter- 3400 Pale malt, 75 chocolate, and replaced 470 maltose syrup with 470 of flaked maize. This had an og of 1040 and has a huge rocky foaming head on it.
Good luck with your stout.