UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

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UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

Post by techtone » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:17 pm

Used to love cascade (hophead etc) and made a few batches with the hops grown in the USA. Obviously everyone else decided they love them too so the price shot up. So got myself some UK grown cascade and wondering if anyone has any opinions on how they compare or what to look for in any differences, subtle or otherwise. Brew is actually on the boil right now. Simple recipe 93% mo and 7% wheat for head retention. Using 100g of UK cascade, 20g for the boil and 80g in the last 20 minutes. So far, seems to have plenty of oils and the familiar aroma. Will update with my observations but interested in any others, whilst I wait =P~

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Re: UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

Post by scuppeteer » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:12 pm

I love English Cascade, a much more refined and more subtle hop than its American sister. With English you don't get any of the unpleasant (to some) "catty" aromas and flavour. Although I have been informed there are 4 different cultivars of Cascade in the US, so maybe we got the nicer one. I do find the Kent and Sussex grown hops superior to Hereford and Worcester, but I may be bias as I buy direct from my local Sussex farmer.
As with any English hop you have to know how to use it to get the best from it, so if you brew again I would dump a load in the last minute or 2 of boil and maybe a steep addition below 75C. A 20 minute addition won't let it shine quite as it should. But it will still be a tasty brew. ;)
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Re: UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

Post by orlando » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:32 am

I would go with scups advice but also hold some back to dry hop, suspect the advice is way too late, so next time maybe.
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Re: UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

Post by techtone » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:42 am

Thanks for the replies, I'm still watching the thread! Will give an update when I keg in a week or so. (give or take Christmas :shock: ) When I said "80g in the last 20 minutes" I meant during the last 20 minutes not all in with 20 to go. Didn't dry hop (or steep) this time though. Certainly got lots of aroma on brew day and getting something nice from the air lock, so should be good.


P.S. I had assumed the UK brewers used USA Cascade, just because I wasn't aware we grew so much here. I wonder how many UK brewers actually do use UK Cascade too???

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Re: UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

Post by techtone » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:22 pm

Just kegged and had a 1/4 pint sample. Quite impressed so far, reasonable aroma and a little citrus orange bite to the taste. Very comparable to the US variety if a little more subdued. Obviously not a hop monster with 100g but should be a decent drink. Will see if anything more to report after a couple of weeks conditioning.

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Re: UK grown (commercially) Cascade any good??

Post by Hanglow » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:54 pm

The slovenian and New Zealand grown versions of it are worth checking out too
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