Hop Growing 2014

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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by scuppeteer » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:11 am

I don't wish to complicate things but... I'm going to anyway!

As a young plant they do well to be protected (from the elements) as Andy has done, but as an established plant, say 2 years or more, they benefit from being exposed to normal growing conditions. By this I mean that what ever nature throws at them in the garden they will either crop heavy or lighter and there is very little you can do that will make a difference.
One example is Bramling Cross. They really thrive on cold winters. If you recall the winter of 2011/12 was a prolonged period of very cold weather. Come September 2012 I wasn't sure if I was in Sussex or the Amazon, the Bramling bines were so thick and heavily cropped with leaf and hops it took 2 days more than normal to pick that garden! This was also true of newer varieties such as Pilgrim and Admiral. 2013 was a walk in the park compared to the previous year.

There is no definitive guide to which varieties grow best in which conditions, it is only my opinion drawn from my own experience. Certain ones grow better in Kent and Sussex than in Worcester and vice versa. I must also stress that as we only do this as a hobby it is down to what varieties you would prefer to grow which may or may not be the best for your location. You may win or lose on the harvest size but I still say you win as you're growing hops! 8)
Dave Berry


Can't be arsed to keep changing this bit, so, drinking some beer and wanting to brew many more!

Sir, you are drunk! Yes madam, and you are ugly, but in the morning I shall be sober! - WSC

Evanvine

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by Evanvine » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:31 am

Interesting, this is my 5th season, I'll look back at my records.
I believe the production of maple syrup is affected in a similar way.

richtangsoo

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by richtangsoo » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:24 pm

Hi I planted my first goldings (cob) rhizome just after xmas, and theirs no signs of life yet,
should I be worried.

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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by scuppeteer » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:49 pm

No need to worry yet Rich, my established plants are only just sprouting. I also have a Cob which I put in the ground last Spring making it 2 years old now, it has only shown signs this week. If in 4 weeks time there is still nothing have a gentle root around in the soil to make sure.
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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by Evanvine » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:51 am

All my long established hops are sprouting, but the one I planted last year isn't showing any signs yet.

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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by boingy » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:44 am

Evanvine wrote:All my long established hops are sprouting, but the one I planted last year isn't showing any signs yet.
They can take a season to get settled. They are spending all their time unpacking boxes, having their post redirected and wondering where they put the kettle.

My Prima Dona has been showing for a couple of weeks and the Cascade is just starting to poke through. Not sure whet effect the weird winter will have. Our daffodils flowered before the snowdrops this year!

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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by Evanvine » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:12 am

Thanks for the info Boingy, I only really posted to reassure Rich.

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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by richtangsoo » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:24 pm

Cheers guys, I'm trying to contain my excitement at what I hope will be my first hop harvest,
although I no the first year will be a small one.

banksy

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by banksy » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:46 am

Interesting thread, my hops seem to be at the same stage as most others with a couple of inches of growth.

Quick question to the cascade growers, what would you say is the main difference between your home grown and the commercially grown US equivalent? Mine, when dried seem a little 'grassier' although I have used some as late editions to a Willamette/Cascade pale ale and none of the grassiness seems to have come through thank goodness. :D

Cheers!

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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by scuppeteer » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:08 pm

Best thing you can do Banksy is get hold of some English cascade and compare. I actually prefer the UK version as I don't find it as harsh, you do have to use a bit more though if you want the same citrus hit.
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Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by banksy » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:10 pm

That's a good idea.... I will try to source some UK grown Cascade for comparison.

Cheers!

L2wis

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by L2wis » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:11 pm

Hello all,

Been quite a while since my last login on here! Been thinking about growing some hops this year. I tried to grow a couple of dwarf varieties a couple of years back but it didn't go so well as I don't think the location was ideal.

This time however I'm thinking of growing some fuggles and goldings in a much sunnier location. How high do the do you think I will need to place my hooks? Planning on growing them up the side of my house so i'll have to out some hooks or something into the brickwork somewhere to hold the strings.

Evanvine

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by Evanvine » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:21 pm

L2wis wrote:How high do the do you think I will need to place my hooks?
Higher than the average house, 25-30 ft isn't unusual.

L2wis

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by L2wis » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:25 pm

Whooooh hahah! Might have to think of something else to plant then!

Evanvine

Re: Hop Growing 2014

Post by Evanvine » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:29 pm

Panic not L2wis!
You can pinch the growing tips out when they reach the height you want.

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