Hop Growing 2013

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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by barneey » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:31 pm

Well heres mine at the moment got permission to put them out the South facing front, next stage to get the ladder out to hook some ropes up :)

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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by crafty john » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:52 pm

smuggles wrote:My Prima Donna is just getting going, I've got 13 shoots all a couple of inches long. I have a couple of questions though.

How long should I leave it before removing the weaker bines, and how many should I leave? Also, can I use the ones I've removed as cuttings?
Give it a couple of weeks, then select the strongest 5 bines, Ideally you only want 3 but I always choose 5 and cut out the weaker one later in the season which leaves 4 just in case one gets trashed by a football or something. That's what I do anyway.

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Post by brodington » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:03 pm

smuggles wrote:Also, can I use the ones I've removed as cuttings?

I would also like to know this. And if it is possible how is it done?

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Post by Antehelion » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:20 pm

brodington wrote:
smuggles wrote:Also, can I use the ones I've removed as cuttings?

I would also like to know this. And if it is possible how is it done?
I snipped off young unwanted shoots early in the season last year (when 6 inches or so long) and just plonked them into a small pot with generic compost. no special rooting powder, no faff with putting them around the edge or anything that the books/programs might suggest for usual cuttings. this was from a fuggles and a WGV. they all survived fine and I planted 3 fuggles and a wgv on last year slightly later - no crop at all however as they only went in mid-season. I since pulled out 2 of the fuggles just before christmas for a mate and they have done ok.
I think I might have had one cutting which didn't make it, but I was pretty much leaving them to fend for themselves. they are weeds, so pretty tough things.

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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by seymour » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:02 pm

Antehelion wrote:
brodington wrote:
smuggles wrote:Also, can I use the ones I've removed as cuttings?

I would also like to know this. And if it is possible how is it done?
I snipped off young unwanted shoots early in the season last year (when 6 inches or so long) and just plonked them into a small pot with generic compost. no special rooting powder, no faff with putting them around the edge or anything that the books/programs might suggest for usual cuttings...I think I might have had one cutting which didn't make it, but I was pretty much leaving them to fend for themselves. they are weeds, so pretty tough things...
I've had similar success with my Cascade which are extremely hardy, but not any other varieties. I'm pretty sure I used rooting hormone powder, though.

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Post by seymour » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:42 pm

pofke wrote:Hi there, Paul from Lithuania. Maybe anyone would fancy trading some rhizomes? I have quite interesting and not that common Marynka rhizomes, probably there are around 5 left. Would like to trade it to some Goldings or Cascade rhizomes. I can post them through priority mail well packed, but this should be done fast as they were dug out on sunday, and while they're resting wrapped in my fridge, I would really like them leaving;)
Hi Paul, and welcome to Jim's. I have a US Cascade rhizome I'll trade for Marynka if you're still interested.

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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by scuppeteer » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:41 pm

seymour wrote:
pofke wrote:Hi there, Paul from Lithuania. Maybe anyone would fancy trading some rhizomes? I have quite interesting and not that common Marynka rhizomes, probably there are around 5 left. Would like to trade it to some Goldings or Cascade rhizomes. I can post them through priority mail well packed, but this should be done fast as they were dug out on sunday, and while they're resting wrapped in my fridge, I would really like them leaving;)
Hi Paul, and welcome to Jim's. I have a US Cascade rhizome I'll trade for Marynka if you're still interested.
Not wanting to p*ss on your bonfire, but you do have to be very careful about sending flora material to other continents. Chances are it will be intercepted and destroyed unless you are registered with the relevant authorities. This is to prevent potential unwanted diseases and bugs from causing untold damage to native varieties. One example is the current Ash die back disease affecting many English Ash trees which appears to stem from imported trees from the Netherlands. Just be careful guys.
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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by seymour » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:30 am

scuppeteer wrote:Not wanting to p*ss on your bonfire, but you do have to be very careful about sending flora material to other continents. Chances are it will be intercepted and destroyed unless you are registered with the relevant authorities. This is to prevent potential unwanted diseases and bugs from causing untold damage to native varieties. One example is the current Ash die back disease affecting many English Ash trees which appears to stem from imported trees from the Netherlands. Just be careful guys.
True, good point. I didn't think about that. I was just so excited about the possibility of growing my own Marynka. :)

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Post by Beer O'Clock » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:05 am

Scuppers has a good point. The other issue for intercontinental flora migration would be resistance (or lack of) to "local" infections.
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Post by crafty john » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:07 pm

scuppeteer wrote:
seymour wrote:
pofke wrote:Hi there, Paul from Lithuania. Maybe anyone would fancy trading some rhizomes? I have quite interesting and not that common Marynka rhizomes, probably there are around 5 left. Would like to trade it to some Goldings or Cascade rhizomes. I can post them through priority mail well packed, but this should be done fast as they were dug out on sunday, and while they're resting wrapped in my fridge, I would really like them leaving;)
Hi Paul, and welcome to Jim's. I have a US Cascade rhizome I'll trade for Marynka if you're still interested.
Not wanting to p*ss on your bonfire, but you do have to be very careful about sending flora material to other continents. Chances are it will be intercepted and destroyed unless you are registered with the relevant authorities. This is to prevent potential unwanted diseases and bugs from causing untold damage to native varieties. One example is the current Ash die back disease affecting many English Ash trees which appears to stem from imported trees from the Netherlands. Just be careful guys.
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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by far9410 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:48 pm

I'm thinking of a brew with a late addition of japanese knock weed, any probs?
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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by Twistedfinger » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:36 pm

far9410 wrote:I'm thinking of a brew with a late addition of japanese knock weed, any probs?
:lol: :lol:

Young jap knot weed is edible and are supposed to be like rhubarb. Only thing is you'll get into trouble for cutting it and taking it home.

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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by scuppeteer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:56 pm

far9410 wrote:I'm thinking of a brew with a late addition of japanese knock weed, any probs?
Not exactly about hop growing though is it? :?
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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by chivelegs » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:59 am

A stupid woman on our allotment was up in arms that the local council was trying to kill an outbreak of Japanese Knotweed and wanted to plant a load on her plot because it was "good for her bees."
A quick reading of The Wildlife and Countryside Act shut her up. I've seen it collapse a brick wall round the corner from me, nasty stuff.

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Re: Hop Growing 2013

Post by Cazamodo » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:25 pm

Put the trellis up today. And felt so bad cutting back my hops to just the 5 strongest bines. May even cut them down to 4, what do you guys usually do?

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