Hop Growing 2015

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Hop Growing 2015

Post by Jambo » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:45 pm

After my first attempt last year in which a Wye Challenger barely got a foot high before dieing off, I've just planted a golden tassles dwarf plant from aplus.

Fingers crossed for better success this year. I'm planning to get some kind of cloche on it ASAP, see if I can get the soil temperature up a bit, and then protect the plant from wind, slugs and bunnies when it comes up!

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by seymour » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:51 pm

Wow, the 2015 growing season conversation already? I wish I could participate, my ground's frozen hard with several inches of snow on top. Oddly, my Wye Challenger plant died last year too.

But better luck this year, and keep us posted on your progress!

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by Stewb » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:16 pm

I've just received some bare root rhizomes from willingham nurseries this week- A Prima Donna, a Fuggle and an Early Bird- nothing like traditionally english

They're all wrapped up in some nice wet paper in the fridge and i'll be planting them out this weekend- it's the planned saturday morning recovery plan after the Boston Spa beer festival tonight!

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by Beer O'Clock » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:53 am

I planted out my Willingham supplied bare root rhizomes two weeks ago. Northern Brewer and Challenger.

They haven't died yet =D>
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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by scuppeteer » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:39 am

Jambo wrote:I've just planted a golden tassles dwarf plant from aplus.
You do realise this is a decorative hop only, its absolutely crap for brewing! :?
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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by andyCo » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:27 am

scuppeteer wrote:
Jambo wrote:I've just planted a golden tassles dwarf plant from aplus.
You do realise this is a decorative hop only, its absolutely crap for brewing! :?
I've got a golden tassels plant , tho it states dwarf mine last year reached between 6-8m, as for being crap for brewing read this thread viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11784

I green hopped late on with loads turned out great.

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by seymour » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:52 pm

andyCo wrote:
scuppeteer wrote:
Jambo wrote:I've just planted a golden tassles dwarf plant from aplus.
You do realise this is a decorative hop only, its absolutely crap for brewing! :?
I've got a golden tassels plant , tho it states dwarf mine last year reached between 6-8m, as for being crap for brewing read this thread viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11784 I green hopped late on with loads turned out great.
Really? That's interesting, I've never heard of anyone brewing with those. I'm intrigued. Andy, what did your beer taste/smell like? Scuppeteer, do you know if Golden Tassels/Diva has ever been scientifically analyzed for Alpha Acid percentage, oil composition, etc?

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by andyCo » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:59 pm

Seymour, when I said great I probably ment more like pretty good :D
As for tasting notes ...I never really write anything down on tasting , if I like the beer I reapeat it and tweak if if needed.
The diva plant was in its second year and produced lots of cones, its planted next to my cascade which planted next to my sazz plant which both were in the first year and didn't produce a great deal of hops .
The diva cones when picked were very sticky with lots of yellow lupin and as I said the yeld was good .Tasting the hops green I would put then in low AA % 4-6
Don't get me wrong it ain't no galaxy hop but I wouldn't label then as useless either.
I green hopped a beer with the lot but 90% was diva.
This year I do a all diva beer and report back.

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by tourer » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:36 pm

Lifted my perle and East Kent out of their pots early winter they've put on some strong roots, transplanted in the ground in a load of john innes number 3. so that should get them of to a good start. Although J/Innes is a good compost it does have limited feed for the plants so it'll be a muck/liquid feed after a few weeks when they pop up. By the way Seymour, update, my French Hop seeds are not showing any life as yet. They are sitting up a corner in the kitchen on the floor.

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Post by seymour » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:30 pm

tourer wrote:By the way Seymour, update, my French Hop seeds are not showing any life as yet. They are sitting up a corner in the kitchen on the floor.
Keep your fingers crossed, hops seeds can take a long time to sprout. They somehow seem to have a real awareness of seasons too, so they might wait until later spring, as long as they don't rot first...

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by Jambo » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:37 pm

scuppeteer wrote:
Jambo wrote:I've just planted a golden tassles dwarf plant from aplus.
You do realise this is a decorative hop only, its absolutely crap for brewing! :?
Eek. I wasn't aware they were considered crap, the aplus site fairly bigs them up. I'll see how it goes anyway, then maybe add something more exotic next year (Saaz would be my ideal).

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by scuppeteer » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:26 pm

I am willing to be corrected as Andy states, but a green hop is very a different animal to dried. They're certainly not grown commercially other than for garden centres. Wouldn't have a clue on the AA% Seymour, but would imagine around the 5% mark. A friend of mine has one so maybe I'll make a brew in the Autumn with them. I'm only going on what I've read elsewhere, but then a lot of old varieties were considered to be not to the English taste and are starting to make a comeback.

Tourer, if you have no signs by Mid May I would give up on them. They only need 1/2 inch of soil cover. I didn't plant mine until Early March last year and was a good 6 weeks before they started. Try to keep the soil temperature as even as possible, not too hot, not too cold.
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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by jmc » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:16 pm

Jambo wrote:After my first attempt last year in which a Wye Challenger barely got a foot high before dieing off, I've just planted a golden tassles dwarf plant from aplus.

Fingers crossed for better success this year. I'm planning to get some kind of cloche on it ASAP, see if I can get the soil temperature up a bit, and then protect the plant from wind, slugs and bunnies when it comes up!
For a cheap (free) cloche I cut the bottoms off old 5L Ashbeck PET bottles
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I've used on hops before.

Currently 2 on my rhubarb!

Edit - Just noticed my Challenger has just started to sprout. Only about 1-2cm.
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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by SBMongoose » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:26 pm

Hi guys,

I forgot to cut the bines last autum. Am I too late to do this now, or do I even need to? Will new growth start from shoots anyway from the rhizome, or will it try to bring back last years bines?

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Re: Hop Growing 2015

Post by scuppeteer » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:20 pm

SBMongoose wrote:Hi guys,

I forgot to cut the bines last autum. Am I too late to do this now, or do I even need to? Will new growth start from shoots anyway from the rhizome, or will it try to bring back last years bines?

Old bines are just dead wood, cut them right back to the ground (As JMC's pic). Makes it look tidy as well. ;)
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