Yeast For Bottling

[J_P]

Hi all

I currently bottle my beers and generally use Safale S04 in place of the supplied yeasts (Muntons, Woodefordes and Geordie Kits) as the Safale clags to the bottom of the bottle like sh*t to a blanket!

I was wondering if anyone could recommend any other yeasts that have similar properties please.

Just curious

JP

[DRB]

The muntons yeast sticks to the bottom well.

[J_P]

The muntons yeast sticks to the bottom well.

The trouble is it's not much good at fermenting given the amount of stuck ferments that seem to be reported with muntons kits and yeasts

[DRB]

I dont reckon the yeast is the problem more to do with the malt,i,ve used this yeast quite a few times doing all grain and had no problem at all fermenting out.

[mysterio]

Yeah i've tried the muntons premium gold yeast on an all grain batch and it worked great.

[Wez]

I dont reckon the yeast is the problem more to do with the malt,i,ve used this yeast quite a few times doing all grain and had no problem at all fermenting out.

I would agree, I had to use a muntons yeast in an AG brew recently as I forgot to buy a sachet of Safeale, it got the wort fermented out in 5 days! I'm sure it aint the yeast, more likely the malt, Safeale does do better with the kits though, it must just be better at handling it and of course you pitch double the amount.

[J_P]

Excellent news - I reckon I'll be doing AG within a month so it's good to know that I have options as far as yeast goes. I must be in a minority bottling my brews - most folks seem to prefer to keg their brews from what I have read round here. Perhaps it's worth posing a poll in the Tap Room

[Wez]

Excellent news - I reckon I'll be doing AG within a month so it's good to know that I have options as far as yeast goes. I must be in a minority bottling my brews - most folks seem to prefer to keg their brews from what I have read round here. Perhaps it's worth posing a poll in the Tap Room

Would be interesting, personally I can't be arsed with bottling, seems like a lot of hard work to me. I have however decided that I may bottle half a dozen bottles of each AG just to see the difference, so you might want 3 poll options.

[J_P]

I have however decided that I may bottle half a dozen bottles of each AG just to see the difference

I am preferring mine out of 500ml TTL bottles at the moment rather than the two litre water bottles I've been using - perhaps I'm turning into a beer snob

Technically you should be pitching two packets of Muntons Gold in an average wort

Is that the same with all yeasts in AG brewing or is that what you make a starter for? If so how much wort should I be using for a starter?

[J_P]

So technically I am overpitching when I put 11g of Safale S04 into 20l of 1045 wort - Good to know belt and braces and all that. I've bookmarked the page for future reference.

[Chiltern Brewer]

If you want more of a challenge try propagating yeast from a bottle conditioned beer.

[J_P]

I did biochemistry with microbiology at uni - it could be the way forward although I've heard that the yeast in the bottle isn't always the same strain as the yeast they ferment the wort with.

The only two I can think of that are bottle conditioned are Summer Lightening and Shepherds Neame Spitfire and I don't rate Shepherds Neame and I've never found there to be much yeast in the SL

[Chiltern Brewer]

Fullers 1845 is safe bet, or try your local micro's BCA. It can take a brew to get the yeast count up - like I said a challenge.

I'll be honest once I "proved I could do it" and discovered Wyeast Thames Valley I lost interest. In my time I've used Fullers, Shepherd Neame, Marstons, Cottage, Chiltern, Hogsback and Youngs.

[iowalad]

I have found Munton's to stick like glue to the bottom of a bottler (I bottle 1/2 my batch).
Wyest 1098, 1099, 10228, 1728 and 1275 have all stuck to the bottom of the bottle well enough for bottling purposes. I treat my bottles pretty gingerly though.

[DRB]

JP just a suggestion untill you go all grain,why dont you give the muntons yeast a go in a different kit, as in a coopers or something it might work tidy in them.