beer yeast or ale yeast?

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eeyores61

beer yeast or ale yeast?

Post by eeyores61 » Fri May 09, 2008 9:11 pm

I'm probably being very stupid here, but I've just found a quote from a book published in 1669 which says:

"Boil it well, when you come to work it with yeast, take very good Beer-yeast, not Ale-yeast. "

What's the difference? :wall

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri May 09, 2008 11:17 pm

About three and a half centuries is the difference, get yourself a new book :=P

These days, beer is an umbrella term for any malt based fermented drink. Ales, generally, are beers made using top-fermenting yeasts at warmer temperatures. Although, of course, like any rule, there are exceptions. Popular 'ale' yeasts like Nottingham are bottom fermenters, and are usually used at warmer temperatures.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Sat May 10, 2008 1:50 am

About three and a half centuries is the difference, get yourself a new book
:lol: :lol:
What's the difference?
There's no way of saying as neither strains of yeast will be available anymore :cry:

dartgod

Post by dartgod » Sat May 10, 2008 3:08 am

Vossy1 wrote:
About three and a half centuries is the difference, get yourself a new book
:lol: :lol:
What's the difference?
There's no way of saying as neither strains of yeast will be available anymore :cry:
I have a few vials that my great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfather left in the old root cellar......... :flip: :flip: :flip: :flip: do you think they are still good.........on the subject though, I think beer was weaker than ale in those days so maybe it was a strain of yeast from the lower alcohol beers......sort of grabbing at air here :-k

eeyores61

Post by eeyores61 » Sun May 11, 2008 12:15 am

About three and a half centuries is the difference, get yourself a new book
:D :D

Top or bottom fermenting, eh?

I don't think I've ever tried to absorb so much information in such a short time as I have since i found this forum :shock:

Perhaps if i tried it without drinking the homebrew........ :pink:

Graham

Post by Graham » Sun May 11, 2008 2:53 am

dartgod wrote:on the subject though, I think beer was weaker than ale in those days so maybe it was a strain of yeast from the lower alcohol beers......sort of grabbing at air here :-k
Actually, I would say that that would be very close to the truth. All beer / ale yeasts would almost certainly have been top working in those days; the techniques of the day would demand a top worker. Indeed, bottom workers are 20th century.

However, a yeast that has spent the last few generations fermenting a weak beer would struggle if it is suddenly plunged into a strong ale and vice-versa. Not bad for 1669, if it genuinely is from 1669. Easy to underestimate the knowledge of our forefathers.

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