Mangrove Jack's Craft Series Dried Yeasts info

[seymour]

Mangrove Jack's Craft Series Dried Yeasts just appeared for sale in the USA. I don't know, maybe you've had access to these all along, but I thought I'd start an info-sharing thread here. Some strains are surely redundant, it's still annoying the historical origins are all "anonymized", but it looks like a few might be unique strains not previously offered in a convenient, inexpensive dry format:

Bavarian Wheat Yeast M20

British Ale Yeast M07

US West Coast Yeast M44

Burton Union Yeast M79

Bohemian Lager Yeast M84

Belgian Ale Yeast M27

Newcastle Dark Ale Yeast M03

Workhorse Beer Yeast M10

Cider Yeast M02

If nothing else, I like how much more descriptive their literature and specs are compared to other vendors:
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/pdfs/mangrove.pdf

Have any of your guys used these yeasts yet? Anyone know the historical brewery origin or equivalent commercial strains of these?

[jonnyt]

Don't think they are available in the UK.

Is the Belgian one Rochefort?

[seymour]

Really? It's a UK company, and I thought I'd seen other members talking about Mangrove Jack's kits. Maybe the dried yeasts are coming soon?

I'd bet good money the Belgian strain is simply T-58, which is believed to be a dried version of Chimay. The Fermentation description is certainly identical to T-58 performance.

[Thorbz]

I think Mangrove Jack's is from New Zealand. Shame, could do with a larger selection of dried yeast.

[seymour]

Oh yeah, you're exactly right. Turns out they're a subsidiary of Imake Limited in Albany, New Zealand. Between them and AB-Mauri yeasts of Australia, there are many exciting new dried yeast options. I hope their distribution keeps spreading.

[bryanferry]

My local homebrew shop was sent samples of the Mangrove Jack range. The very kind manager gave me the Bavarian Wheat and Belgian Ale to try it out and report back with a sample of the resulting brews. As I bought all the grain from him it seemed a good deal all round.

I'll double check when i get home tonight but i think on the back of the pack it said made in the UK under license.

Got the Bavarian on over the bank holiday weekend using the Cheap'n'Easy Light Wit as a base (viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38303&hilit=cheap+wit). So far it seems to be working like a treat with a very banana/fruit aroma. it was so active it kicked the bung out the top of the fermenter. I took pics of the brew day so will post if i get time.

Plan to get the Belgian ale on this weekend using a leffe blonde style mix with some homemade candi sugar. if it is chimay i will be very very happy.

[bryanferry]

Copy of image by Bryanferry79, on Flickr

Pic of the back of the pack which does mention made in the UK from imported and local ingredients, so hopefully we'll find the range expanding across the UK.

[grmski]

You can get these in the UK from lovebrewing.co.uk. I've not used that shop before so can't comment on their service but maybe worth a shot.

[jmc]

You can get these in the UK from lovebrewing.co.uk. I've not used that shop before so can't comment on their service but maybe worth a shot.

Thanks for the info. Lovebrewing Mangrove Jack yeast range listed here.

They also have a PDF doc about these

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Link to main Mangrove Jack Website

[Wezzel]

I believe www. Thehomebrewshop.co.uk are now selling this

[CJR]

Can confirm.

http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/cgi ... PR=-1&TB=A

[AnthonyUK]

The homebrewshop.co.uk in Aldershot have a nice new stand for this and other dried yeasts as I saw it an Saturday
Yeast is one more area I want to improve on as I'm currently struggling through the 'Yeast' book.
This specialist dried yeast looks like another option to expensive liquid yeast whilst improving my processes.

[super_simian]

I am going to be stoked if these are truly new yeasts. And I'm not usually a nay-sayer, BUT some of the descriptions sound...familiar. For example; M07 (British Ale): med-high attenuation, high flocculation, high compaction, can ferment as low as 12C? Sounds very much like Nottingham. Although they do say it accentuates hop and malt.

M44 (US West Coast) is obviously a US05/BRY97 contender. M79 (Burton Union) sounds similar to Coopers and/or S33, M27 (Belgian Ale) sounds close to Belle Saison (mainly in terms of very high attenuation) or T58, M03 (Newcastle Dark Ale) seems close to Windsor and M10 (Workhorse) looks damn close to Mauribrew Ale 514.

That said, I am happy to be proven wrong, because the M79 sounds like a corker and even if it is just re-packed Coopers I'd be happy; I (somewhat ironically) find it difficult to find Coopers here - ditto 514. They come in kits but finding them separately is really difficult. And I like using them for a bunch of my house "running" beers.

[jonnyt]

I'd disagree with your assertion of M44 given it's stated Flocculation.

[seymour]

I'd disagree with your assertion of M44 given it's stated Flocculation.

I have a theory about the recent "West Coast" dry yeasts.

So, the ubiquitous Chico strain, nicknamed for the hometown of Sierra Nevada, who popularized the yeast which is now used seemingly EVERYWHERE, came from the Siebel Institute, a brewing school in Chicago. They originally got it from Ballantine Brewery in Newark, New Jersey, before they went out of business. The old Ballantine brewmaster was Scottish, and supposedly brought-over a brewery strain from somewhere in the UK. Obviously, Ballantine adapted it to their own HUGE production scale over many generations. That particular Siebel strain is called Siebel BRY-96 "American Ale", which went on to be offered in various forms such as Sierra Nevada bottle cultures, White Labs WLP001, Wyeast 1056, Safale US-05.

However, Siebel has a different strain BRY-97 "American West Coast Yeast", with higher flocculation. It's fairly obvious to me this must be the origin of Lallemand/Danstar's recent BRT-97 "American West Coast". Perhaps Mangrove Jack M44 "US West Coast Yeast" is another rerelease of this Siebel strain, not Chico.