WLP002 starter
WLP002 starter
I've never used WLP002 (White Labs English Ale yeast) before, but my recipe suggested a starter, so a starter I am making.
After about 27 hours on stir plate (1 pack in approx 1L @1036), I saw no frothy head I'm familiar with from other yeast starters and the body of the liquid was full of "lumps" of yeast - rather like curdled milk -swirling round.
I'm wondering whether others have used this yeast and can comment on whether this is normal?
I will - of course - give it a good sniff and a little taste before using the yeast.
Thanks!
After about 27 hours on stir plate (1 pack in approx 1L @1036), I saw no frothy head I'm familiar with from other yeast starters and the body of the liquid was full of "lumps" of yeast - rather like curdled milk -swirling round.
I'm wondering whether others have used this yeast and can comment on whether this is normal?
I will - of course - give it a good sniff and a little taste before using the yeast.
Thanks!
Fermenting: nowt
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
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Re: WLP002 starter
Should be fine. This happens sometimes, depending on the yeast. I did a WLP 007 starter a couple of weeks ago. Looked just like you described. Took off like a rocket when I pitched it!
Guy
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Re: WLP002 starter
Thanks, Guy.
Could definitely do with getting this beer brewed quick!
Could definitely do with getting this beer brewed quick!
Fermenting: nowt
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
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Re: WLP002 starter
I use this yeast a lot and would not worry the clumping is quite normal. I normally get a slight head at this stage. How old is the yeast and how long do you intend to keep on the stir plate
Re: WLP002 starter
Thanks, Dennis.
Yeast has a use by date of Sept 2020.
I'm brewing tomorrow, so plan to remove from stir plate Saturday morning, but welcome guidance from your experience with this yeast.
There certainly looks to be lots of yeast grown.
Pic attached is a screen shot from a short video I took - which JBK won't permit me to upload :@
Yeast has a use by date of Sept 2020.
I'm brewing tomorrow, so plan to remove from stir plate Saturday morning, but welcome guidance from your experience with this yeast.
There certainly looks to be lots of yeast grown.
Pic attached is a screen shot from a short video I took - which JBK won't permit me to upload :@
Fermenting: nowt
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
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Re: WLP002 starter
That looks really good! Is there any way you can now cool it down? 'Fridge temperature is good, but anything below about 15°C will help. If you can cool it the yeast will settle on the bottom of the flask in a very obvious layer.
When you're ready to pitch it, tip off almost all the liquid above the yeast. Then whizz the flask around to resuspend the yeast in the little bit of liquid left. Pour it into your fermenter once the wort is at the right sort of temperature and you should see signs of fermentation within a few hours.
Guy
When you're ready to pitch it, tip off almost all the liquid above the yeast. Then whizz the flask around to resuspend the yeast in the little bit of liquid left. Pour it into your fermenter once the wort is at the right sort of temperature and you should see signs of fermentation within a few hours.
Guy
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Re: WLP002 starter
If it is the Fuller's strain that is normal. I'm fairly sure it is. DWHAHB.
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Re: WLP002 starter
Looks good to me.
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Thanks chaps. I’ll put it in the fridge.
Fermenting: nowt
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
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Re: WLP002 starter
Cobnut,
I see two pics of beer on your screenshot.
Are we going to see them in all their glory on JBK?
WA
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I see two pics of beer on your screenshot.
Are we going to see them in all their glory on JBK?
WA
Beer Porn!
Re: WLP002 starter
I rarely get a "frothy head" on my yeast starters. I always consider such things as indicating I've got the stirrer going too slow and/or I've left it too long. The piccie is a WLP002 starter I used some time ago. It's just a blizzard of fine flocs. (Crikey, those foam stoppers used to be white!).
However … the yeast will do a similar thing (create "flocs") in the fermenter, and create a very solid sediment at the end of fermentation. It can be dug out in "chunks" rather than sloppy mud pie, and makes the best bread yeast I've ever got from a fermented beer. Only keeps a few days though.
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WA, since you asked so nicely. Here’s a pic of my recent Brakspears Bitter (ish) clone as drunk from keg (but too cold as I have yet to sort the temperature control on the keg fridge. Sitting around 5-6C). Disappeared all too quickly
The other pic was before I adjusted the colour of the pic.
Plenty more where that came from.
C.
PS the WLP002 is working away. Took a while to get going, but going great guns now.
The other pic was before I adjusted the colour of the pic.
Plenty more where that came from.
C.
PS the WLP002 is working away. Took a while to get going, but going great guns now.
Fermenting: nowt
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
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Re: WLP002 starter
I spy an Adnams glass.
I used to love the bitterness you used to get in a Brakspears Special Bitter. What recipe did you use?
I used to love the bitterness you used to get in a Brakspears Special Bitter. What recipe did you use?
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Conditioning:
Drinking: Southwold Again,
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Planning: Winter drinking Beer
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Conditioning:
Drinking: Southwold Again,
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Re: WLP002 starter
Cob,
Good looking Beer there!
Are you adjusting the colour of your beer pics just to make them look better?
WA
Good looking Beer there!
Are you adjusting the colour of your beer pics just to make them look better?
WA
Re: WLP002 starter
Indeed
I used the Wheeler recipe with a few judicious adjustments to a) suit what I'd got in stock (e.g. Styrian GOldings in place of Fuggles) & b) to use "invert sugar" rather than black malt to get the colour about right.
I cut my drinking teeth on Brakspears back in the early 80s and so have fond memories of both Bitter and Special. More so the bitter, though, 'cause it's perfect for a long session. The Special was a little heavier.
I do quite like the Oxford Gold in bottles - buy it when I see it - but Brakspears is no longer brewed in Henley; I believe it's brewed at the old Morlands brewery in Oxford.
And @WalesAles, I colour adjust purely to make the photos look a little better. Not the beer
Fermenting: nowt
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!
Conditioning: English IPA/Bretted English IPA
Drinking: Sunshine Marmalade, Festbier, Helles Bock, Smokey lagery beer, Irish Export StoutCascade APA (homegrown hops), Orval clone, Impy stout, Duvel clone, Conestoga (American Barley wine)
Planning: Dark Mild, Kozel dark (ish), Simmonds Bitter, Bitter, Citra PA and more!