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sam c

lactose

Post by sam c » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:10 pm

hello all,

when making a dj full of tc how much lactose such i add to make a cider the same sweetness as say magners?this would be using cider yeast.i have done a few tc's now and most were great however i did find them a little dry, especially the ones made with champagne yeast.alternativley is there any other non fermentable sugars that some one could suggest to do the same job?

sam c

Re: lactose

Post by sam c » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:55 pm

Chris-x1 wrote:Lactose wont give you the same sort of sweetness as sugar. Nutrisweet or Splenda might give you a more normal tasting sweetness.

Which ever you choose you can just add the sweetner to taste. Try adding it a little at a time to 1/2 a pt until it tastes right then you can scale it upto find out how much you need to add to the rest of the batch.
nice one chris, will get some and stick a bit in a pint of my apple and peach tc (which is pretty dry) and see how it sweetens it up and then work from there. so could i use any kind of artificial sweetener?

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Re: lactose

Post by Laripu » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:30 pm

Chris-x1 wrote:
sam c wrote:
Chris-x1 wrote:Lactose wont give you the same sort of sweetness as sugar. Nutrisweet or Splenda might give you a more normal tasting sweetness.

Which ever you choose you can just add the sweetner to taste. Try adding it a little at a time to 1/2 a pt until it tastes right then you can scale it upto find out how much you need to add to the rest of the batch.
nice one chris, will get some and stick a bit in a pint of my apple and peach tc (which is pretty dry) and see how it sweetens it up and then work from there. so could i use any kind of artificial sweetener?
Some are supposed to have a better taste than others but other than that, any will do.
Nutrasweet contains aspartame which is probably not fermetable - that's good. You might want to taste it first, though.

According to http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/docket ... 002-02.pdf
  • "SPLENDA® Granular product does contain fermentable carbohydrate (maltodextrin) per 0.5 g serving."
I'm not sure what the size of a serving is: you'll have to look that up. But at least part of it is fermentable by some yeast (lager yeast, I think ??) and that part will not sweeten the batch. Maybe that fraction is negligible, so look it the serving size.

There is a lot of discussion on the net about sweetening batches of beer with either lactose or Splenda or other. Might be a good idea to do some reading.
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Re: lactose

Post by sam c » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:59 am

thanks for those replies chaps, i think i will do a little experimenting and see how it turns out. thanks again.

will

Re: lactose

Post by will » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:33 am

Is there anything more natural that can be used to sweeten that isn't fermentable?

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Re: lactose

Post by Pronay » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:15 am

will wrote:Is there anything more natural that can be used to sweeten that isn't fermentable?
Stevia





When you sweeten, do you make a syrup with non-fermentable sugar and hot water???? Because I added some lactose (going to use something different in future) and it just settled at the bottom

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Re: lactose

Post by Pronay » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:16 am


will

Re: lactose

Post by will » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:50 am

"As a result of the outcome of safety assessments which have been carried out Stevia and stevioside are not permitted for sale as food or food ingredients in the UK or elsewhere within the EU." - Food Standards Agency

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