Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:35 am

Thanks for the advice guys. I'm shopping tomorrow so will pick up 10(ish) ltrs of AJ. I've ordered some Richies champagne/cider yeast (it was the first one I came to on ebay, is it any good?) so should be ready to rock n roll on monday! I'm going to have a blast at Trucker5774's method of halting fermentation through chilling as I have plenty of fridge space.

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:03 pm

12ltrs of apple nectar purchased! :D

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by afur130173 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:41 am

I've read some bad reports on richies yeast butt not been too bad any time I've used it.

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:01 pm

Yeast arrived in the post. They've sent Youngs Cider Yeast for some reason (the joys of ebay) but hey ho... I'll get it all on the go tonight.

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by Pinto » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:12 pm

Nothing wrong with that :) I've used it myself and results were good - just hope you didnt pay too much; I can get it for 99p per sachet from my LHBS
Primary 1: Nonthing
Primary 2 : Nothing
Primary 3 : None
Secondary 1 : Empty
Secondary 1 : None
DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:44 am

I think it cost about £1.20 including postage.

Chucked it all in the FV last night! 12ltrs apple nectar, 1ltr tea, 1.5kg sugar. OG 1.068 @19ºC

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by jordanchaos » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:54 pm

The Maple flavour syrup from Tate and Lyle has unfermentables that work.
Ive also tried boiling up some hard cider apples straining the cooled juice in to the FV, that works, tea works and grape juice really really works


no one has mentioned killing off the yeast before full fermentation with campden tabs to maintain sweetness? any reason?

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by oldbloke » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:56 pm

Well, Campdens don't kill yeast: they stun it a bit, but they don't kill it. Think of all the winemakers who Campden whenever they rack, and fermentation carries on.
Potassium sorbate and Campden together would be a better bet, if you want to kill the yeast.
But, if the yeast's dead, where's your carbonation coming from? Not keen on completely still cider myself.

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:30 pm

36 hours and we're off :twisted:

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by Pinto » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:13 pm

36 hours ? She's a slow burner for a TC :lol: - My CInnimonator put the first bubbles through the airlock after just 4 hours @ 21 degrees

It'll make up for it soon enought tho - if your mix has nutrient it'll be going mental soon
Primary 1: Nonthing
Primary 2 : Nothing
Primary 3 : None
Secondary 1 : Empty
Secondary 1 : None
DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
Planning : AG #5 - Galaxy Pale (re-brew) / #6 - Alco-Brau (Special Brew Clone) / #7 Something belgian...
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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:09 pm

:oops: No nutrient....

I'ts droped really cold last night (the FV was reading 17º this morning) and fermentation seems to have dropped right off. Popped it in a sunny spot and turned the heating up before I left the house so we shall see how it goes.

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by oldbloke » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:11 pm

It'll be OK, just take a bit longer. A cooler ferment /may/ give you a tastier end product.

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:19 pm

Ive never had this trouble with ales :lol:

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by danbrew » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:31 pm

Wort is perfect medium for yeast though. Anything else needs a bit of help. If you can get some nutrient I'd be inclined to whack a bit in... Not saying it will happen in your case but a lack of nutrient could cause funny smells...

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Re: Can I just throw yeast at apple juice?

Post by bigdave » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:48 pm

There's nowhere locally that stocks it & it's likely to be a week on Saturday before I can get to a HBS! Only thing I have to hand is a packet of S04 which I cant imagine would be of much use.

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