Evening all,
I've been brewing beers for 5 or 6 years now with good results, and now I fancy having a bash at TC. I don't like sweet ciders, I prefer something like Savana or Aspalls dry, any advice on how to make this style of cider using apple concentrate?
thanks.
First TC
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oldbloke
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Re: First TC
Dry is easy, as you just let it ferment right out.
1 gallon:
4l cheapo AJ ('from concentrate' OK), 1/2l something else to round out flavour - cranberry works
You also want some tannin, and if you don't have powdered you'll need to use a bit less juice to make room for a mugful of very strong tea.
Bit of yeast nutrient, a cider yeast.
Chuck all bar 1l of Aj into demi, wait 4 days, add last litre of AJ, wait until it clears, bottle, with 1tsp sugar per pint(or 500ml) for priming if you want it fizzy.
2 weeks warm 2 weeks cold to condition, drink (but better if you can wait longer)
This gives 5 to 6% depending on the juice used.
Takes owt from 10 to 20 days to ferment out - no need for the hydrometer: when it's properly clear, bottle.
If you use AJ concentrate (eg Suma), you can make it more appley, which is good, but it'll also be stronger. A recipe I've enjoyed is:
500ml Suma AJ concentrate, 1/2l Morrison's cranberry & raspberry, 1/2l Morrison's cranberry, 1/2l strong Yorkshire Gold, nutrient, yeast
Chuck it all into a demi, make up to about 3.5l with water, after 4 days top up to the gallon.
That's about 7%, mayeb 7.5, I forget - you can work it out from the total sugars
For larger volumes just scale up.
1 gallon:
4l cheapo AJ ('from concentrate' OK), 1/2l something else to round out flavour - cranberry works
You also want some tannin, and if you don't have powdered you'll need to use a bit less juice to make room for a mugful of very strong tea.
Bit of yeast nutrient, a cider yeast.
Chuck all bar 1l of Aj into demi, wait 4 days, add last litre of AJ, wait until it clears, bottle, with 1tsp sugar per pint(or 500ml) for priming if you want it fizzy.
2 weeks warm 2 weeks cold to condition, drink (but better if you can wait longer)
This gives 5 to 6% depending on the juice used.
Takes owt from 10 to 20 days to ferment out - no need for the hydrometer: when it's properly clear, bottle.
If you use AJ concentrate (eg Suma), you can make it more appley, which is good, but it'll also be stronger. A recipe I've enjoyed is:
500ml Suma AJ concentrate, 1/2l Morrison's cranberry & raspberry, 1/2l Morrison's cranberry, 1/2l strong Yorkshire Gold, nutrient, yeast
Chuck it all into a demi, make up to about 3.5l with water, after 4 days top up to the gallon.
That's about 7%, mayeb 7.5, I forget - you can work it out from the total sugars
For larger volumes just scale up.
Re: First TC
Good post. Thanks.
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oldbloke
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Re: First TC
I will just say that even people who like dry cider sometimes find a simple TC recipe like this _too_ dry - mouth-puckering. I've only had this happen once (last Friday actually) and only really noticed it on the first few swallows. May depend exactly which juice you use. Just a tiny bit of non-fermentable sweetener, added at any time in the process, would take that edge off. But in general, both my wife and I like it fully-fermented-out-dry. We rarely buy commercial cider now, even the fancier stuff.
Lots of people use champagne yeast. Wine yeasts may give a funkier flavour. All yeasts produce drinkable stuff.
About 200gm (per gallon) of finely sliced ginger simmered in a bit of the juice for about 15 minutes then strained into the FV is a nice modification
Lots of people use champagne yeast. Wine yeasts may give a funkier flavour. All yeasts produce drinkable stuff.
About 200gm (per gallon) of finely sliced ginger simmered in a bit of the juice for about 15 minutes then strained into the FV is a nice modification
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ferry george
Re: First TC
Just bottled my first TC, tastes quite nice, 12 days fermenting at 20c using a champagne yeast, off to sunny France tomorrow so will try when I return. thanks again Oldbloke for advice.