Graff Recipes

[CJR]

Hi everybody,

I'm considering a move into the Graff line and was thinking that maybe we should have a recipe database of Graffs that people are doing.

Since this is a new step, I'm thinking of going easy for a 23L brew.

1 cider kit (apple) and 1kg beer kit enhancer. Follow instructions, substitute the sugar for the BKE. Pitch yeast and wait.

I'm looking to for something apple tasting with some body behind it (hence no hops in this one). BKE was chosen instead of DME due to the presence of maltodextrin.

If you've done/are going to do a Graff then post your recipes here.

[timbo41]

Sorry about thread replication folks! My urban graff was iirc
a 5 litre tescos value juice Turbo,with some pomegranate and blueberry, with the addition of 300 g warm steep of dark crystal. Turned out extremely sweet!
Am thinking of a toucan creation: geordies Scottish export and wilkos pear cider mixed to 20 LITRES. Or whatever ale.type.kit that's on the.cheap.at wilkos

[fatbloke]

Ha! Not a bloody clue what Graff is (other than former German aristocratic title), so I'd better go and see Mr Google hadn't I......

[CJR]

Think cider with a bit of malty body to it. That's my understanding anyway.

[timbo41]

Think a made up drink from the fevered imagination of Mr. Stephen king...albeit with some obscure historical provenance

[fatbloke]

Think cider with a bit of malty body to it. That's my understanding anyway.

Yeah, found it via google.....

Malted cider with some hops....

I wonder if I just used the old cider kit I've got kicking around, with the kilo of DME and hops that I've collected ? Whether it'd end up as drinkable ?

I can't do grain and all that stuff, I don't really do beers etc so I'm not set up for anything like that.....

Maybe just sling it all in the fermenter then if its too tart or bitter I could chuck some honey to back sweeten and bottle prime.....

[CJR]

Think cider with a bit of malty body to it. That's my understanding anyway.

Yeah, found it via google.....

Malted cider with some hops....

I wonder if I just used the old cider kit I've got kicking around, with the kilo of DME and hops that I've collected ? Whether it'd end up as drinkable ?

I can't do grain and all that stuff, I don't really do beers etc so I'm not set up for anything like that.....

Maybe just sling it all in the fermenter then if its too tart or bitter I could chuck some honey to back sweeten and bottle prime.....

That's what I'm planning to do, minus the hops. Cider kit, kilo DME or BKE + yeast. Ferment to 5 gallons, cross fingers.

[fatbloke]

What's the BKE bit ?

[timbo41]

BKE is beer kit enhancer. A pricey way of adding extra fermentables and some maltodextrin( head enhancer) to a kit

[CJR]

In my LHBS 1kg BKE costs less than 1kg DME.

[timbo41]

In my LHBS 1kg BKE costs less than 1kg DME.

Really? The only place I can get bke is wilkos, think its about six quid a throw. I'm tight! But horses for course.

[CJR]

£4.55 1kg Muntons BKE at LHBS. 1kg DME is £6.50.

[fatbloke]

Ah, OK, that explains why I haven't got a clue what it is then. I don't make beers, only meads and country wines, with the occasional red fresh grape (seasonal)......

Actually I already have the DME, as I was gonna try something "braggot-ish" with it and never got round to it.

So, would I need to do anything with the hops or just chuck them in too ?

[timbo41]

To be honest fb, you're now into the realms if extract brewing ...welcome to the darkside!!

[fatbloke]

To be honest fb, you're now into the realms if extract brewing ...welcome to the darkside!!

Nah....any sugars etc other than whats in the cider kit and DME will come from honey...

It's why I mainly do meads and country wines, I don't see any point in trying to copy/clone what's already easily available. The only beer I've contemplated is milk stout.....cos most of those have died out commercially.

So Graff would just be an experiment as it sounds similar to a cyser but with malt...

The darkside lies elsewhere young jedi ........