Atomic Lemon #2

[Curious Brew]

Just going on now:

500ml lemon juice
500ml lime juice
500g cane sugar
40g artificial sweetener
3L water
Bread yeast

Wish me luck.

[Crossbow]

Good luck

Still not sure about the bread yeast however

[gareth90]

CB.....what artificial sweetener did you use?

cheers!

[Curious Brew]

CB.....what artificial sweetener did you use?

cheers!

Sainsbury's own brand, came in a 70g jar.

[mattfuzzy]

so whats useable for sweetening? apart from sugar and stuff, sweeteners you put in tea? mabe that canderel stuff? or whatever it is.
seems interesting... mite try some with my bitter lemon
-matt

[anomalous_result]

Sugar isn't ideal for sweetening as it's fermentable.

[Curious Brew]

I think it was Splenda-sweet I used, own-brand version of Splenda.

[Brewmonster]

It was probably saccharin/phenylalanine you used which is derived from protein and which ants or any insect will not touch. Splenda is pure sucralose which is derived from sugar and is hellishly expensive to make so I doubt it could be an "own-brand". It is also the closest to sucrose you will ever get and highly recommended as a sugar supplement if you are ever on the "Fatkins" diet.

While we are on the subject of sugar, people who think cane sugar is superior to beet sugar when using it for brewing piss me off!!! There is absolutely no difference between the two. They are both 100% sucrose. If anything cane sugar is worse because it has to be filtered through "bone char" to purify it. beet sugar requires a lot less processing.

Bread yeast is almost as good as any. It is just a little wild and you can't guarantee the brewing time or the strength of the brew . There was a time when brewers and bakers co-existed and shared yeast, so yeast is yeast. Tesco's own yeast makes a damn fine damson wine btw.

Curious-brew, you are my hero, but you have to stop plugging Sainsbury's all the time. Unless you are that "mockney" tit Jamie Oliver, then its your job... I challenge you to make a Lidl or Aldi or Netto brew!

[mattfuzzy]

and i challange everyone on here who always plug tescos to bloody use asda/lidl/aldi/anywhere else, so far everyone i know have recently changed to the new local asda due to prices being ALOT cheaper, dunno what the prices are like where you lot are but tesco are expensive here.
-matt

[Crossbow]

I tend to use tesco jiuce for my TC (altho I've tried Asda, Lidl and aldi) and shop at all of the those, and Morrisons. Best bet when supermarket shopping is to try and buy each stores loss leaders to get what you want

[Big-e]

Cane sugar has not been filtered through bone char in the UK for years! even so the char was only used in a carbon filter and had no impact on the final product, note the lack of warning on the packaging to veggies. Generally people cannot tell the difference between cane and beet but some who have been in the industry for years can differentiate between the two. The major difference between cane and beet is the storage times. beet is seasonal and has a very limited window in which it can be prepared and therefore has to be stored for long ammounts of time wheras cane is shipped from all over the world and is a continuing process with in average of 3000T being processed in the UK each day. This means that the bag of sugar in your supermarket probablly didnt even exist a month ago wheras the beet would have been sitting in a bulk silo for anything upto a year.
Cane sugar produces far superior syrups, just compare any home brand or beet kind to Lyles golden syrup(they do not produce for anyone else) and it is evident. Their was a recent program with Heston Blumenthal(one of the worlds most renowned chefs) where he was making the ultimate syrup sponge and could not make anything anywhere near as good.

[Curious Brew]

While we are on the subject of sugar, people who think cane sugar is superior to beet sugar when using it for brewing piss me off!!! There is absolutely no difference between the two. They are both 100% sucrose. If anything cane sugar is worse because it has to be filtered through "bone char" to purify it. beet sugar requires a lot less processing.

I know nothing about sugar other than what I've picked up on here. I would have used Tate & Lyle anyway as that is the sugar I've always bought, coincidentally it just happens to be cane sugar.

Bread yeast is almost as good as any. It is just a little wild and you can't guarantee the brewing time or the strength of the brew . There was a time when brewers and bakers co-existed and shared yeast, so yeast is yeast. Tesco's own yeast makes a damn fine damson wine btw.

My Atomic Lemon is intended to be a true economy brew, it's not about rich complex flavours, it's about student drinking. Hence the cheapest yeast I could find.

Curious-brew, you are my hero, but you have to stop plugging Sainsbury's all the time. Unless you are that "mockney" tit Jamie Oliver, then its your job... I challenge you to make a Lidl or Aldi or Netto brew!

Sorry about the Sainsbury's bias, it's my local shop and easiest to pick up my brewing ingredients when I go food shopping. I have made a Waitrose TC but at that price I might as well buy premium cider!

If I had a local Lidl or Aldi (both about 45/60 minutes away) or knew where I could find a Netto (not seen one of those) I would go there instead.

I consider my TC, AL and Curiously Fruity to be experiments pure and simple. My kit brews are my staple drink until I go AG at least but my demijohn brewery in the corner of the kitchen is excellent fun and gets me drunk very cheaply and is a constant surprise, not least the flaovur!

[Brewmonster]

Big-e, I doubt that you could make syrup from sugar beets because everything besides the sucrose derived from them is unpalatable to humans. You would have to refine the sugar to crystals then add water to turn it into syrup and add flavorings to make it taste more syrupy. I was not on about syrup anyway. I was commenting about pure refined white sugar crystals. both are identical no matter how long they are stored or how much they are processed. You have now given me an idea about doing a brew with syrup instead of sugar.

Sorry to hear you have no other supermarkets around you CB. I think that Lidl alone would be like Aladdin's cave to you. So many exotic juice drinks there!

I consider my TC, AL and Curiously Fruity to be experiments pure and simple. My kit brews are my staple drink until I go AG at least but my demijohn brewery in the corner of the kitchen is excellent fun and gets me drunk very cheaply and is a constant surprise, not least the flaovur!

I have bought another brew bin for the purpose of experimentation alone. I am really starting to get into this brewing business. So much so that I am considering going AG early next year myself. Viva la brew!!!

[Big-e]

I'm not sure how British sugar produce their syrups but I know that lyles golden is one product they would wipe off the face of the earth if they could. I too have been toying with the idea of adding syrup instead of sugar to a TC or maybe an ale.
Last thing about sugar, if you really do prefer cane (for whatever reason) Lidl and some other cheapo brands are cane sugar refined in the uk.

BUY CANE!!!!!!!

It affects my bonus

[Brewmonster]

Lidl and some other cheapo brands are cane sugar refined in the uk.

So I could of been using cane sugar all along... Does that make me a sugar snob?

It affects my bonus

I take it you are either sarcastic or in the sugar industry. Could you tell us which brand contains what kind of sugar?