BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

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BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

Post by Pinto » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:15 pm

Im neither affiliated with or sponser the following... i just think its a bloody good tool !!:D

Freeware recipie designer.

http://www.brewmate.net/

(Surpised it's not been linked before TBH)
Primary 1: Nonthing
Primary 2 : Nothing
Primary 3 : None
Secondary 1 : Empty
Secondary 1 : None
DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
Planning : AG #5 - Galaxy Pale (re-brew) / #6 - Alco-Brau (Special Brew Clone) / #7 Something belgian...
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Re: BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

Post by Dave S » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:14 pm

I've been using Brewmate too and I agree. Brewtarget is also good, but I find Brewmate a bit easier on the brain.
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Re: BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

Post by boingy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:56 pm

Pinto wrote:(Surpised it's not been linked before TBH)
If you were to type, say, "brewmate" into that there search box you'll find about 250 references to it on the forum, including a few from the author about two years ago when he "launched" it:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32391&p=348762

I find it a bit simplistic (and maybe a tad amateurish) but then again, that was the aim of it. And you can't argue with the value for money aspect.

I've just bought Beersmith 2 and Brewmate proved very useful in importing my ProMash recipes and exporting them to Beersmith 2.

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Re: BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

Post by Pinto » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:30 pm

I found it myself via the search function :lol: I meant linked as in put in the section marked "LINKS" :lol:

The cheery simplicity and GUI is what attracts me to it :) I've seen some of the recipes people post here from other software that look like half a page of hexidecimal script ripped straight off a 1970's dot matrix printer ! not what I call accessible :lol:
Primary 1: Nonthing
Primary 2 : Nothing
Primary 3 : None
Secondary 1 : Empty
Secondary 1 : None
DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
Planning : AG #5 - Galaxy Pale (re-brew) / #6 - Alco-Brau (Special Brew Clone) / #7 Something belgian...
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Re: BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

Post by orlando » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:19 am

Before I decided to move up to BeerSmith I used several free brewing software tools and this was the one that seemed to me the best of the lot and gives you pretty much all the basics. I recall at the time that it had brew timers when BeerSmith didn't, which it has rapidly amended. For anyone starting out and on a tight budget it would be the one I recommend. Ultimately though I do fear for it getting a little left behind, unless it moves to a paid for version I can't see what incentive the developer has for continuing with it, a factor in moving on to BeerSmith. An example of development is the launch on May 1st of the BeerSmith App
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Re: BrewMate Recipie Designer (Extract/BIAB/AG)

Post by IPA » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:03 am

Pinto wrote:Im neither affiliated with or sponser the following... i just think its a bloody good tool !!:D

Freeware recipie designer.

http://www.brewmate.net/

(Surpised it's not been linked before TBH)
One thing Brewmate DOES NOT do is calculate EBC correctly. This is Graham Wheeler's reply when I queeried this on this forum a while ago.


by Graham » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:38 pm

The reason that the colour calculation in BeerEngine does not match other software is mainly because most software, particularly American software, is reliant upon a thing called the Morey equation, which is flawed. I have no knowledge of Brewmate, but I suspect that it also uses Morey, even though it is written by an Aussie. The Morey equation perpetuates a misconception that beer colour is not linear; that is, that it assumes that if you double the ingredients you do not get twice the colour. In fact, for all practical purposes, you do get twice the colour.

This misconception goes back to 1991/2 when the late Dr George Fix performed an "experiment" whereby he took a dark American beer and measured its absorbance (colour) as-is and at several dilutions. Fix ended up with a strange-shaped "curve" and from this he concluded that the Beer-Lambert Law, commonly known as Beer's Law, did not apply to beer and that beer colour was non-linear. Beer's Law is a law pertaining to spectrophotometric measurement and, confusingly, Beer is a person in this context. The idea behind George Fix's "experiment" was that home brewers could measure the approximate colour of their beer by diluting a dark commercial beer of known colour until it matched the home brewed beer, and then calculate its colour from the dilution required.

Other people tried to make colour prediction formulae using Fix's data, or at least incorporating Fix's non-linearity assumption, but these were somewhat unsatisfactory. They had obvious limitations and different formula covered different colour ranges. Then another worker, Dan Morey, came along and combined the various formulae into one universal formula. This became known as the Morey equation.

Unfortunately, George Fix did not know how to use a spectrophotometer properly; he was trying to use it outside of its reliable range. His laboratory technique was somewhat school-boyish and his interpretation was flawed. The flaws were noticed at the time and highlighted, but it became quite controversial because George Fix, and some of his followers, doggedly defended his results and methodology to the hilt; despite the fact that people far better qualified pointed out where he went wrong, and despite the fact that several people performed similar experiments using the same reference beer and found no deviation from Beer's Law.

So the Morey equation is wildly wrong because it is based on bad data that has had its errors compounded by other workers who tried to make the data fit the real world. It is unfortunate that these formulae still persist some twenty years later, but I think it persists because has been incorporated into so much software. If it was not for software perpetuating these ideas, they would have been dead, buried and forgotten years ago
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