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Now this came as a surprise!

Post by booldawg » Mon May 05, 2008 4:31 pm

My first stuck fermentation on an AG brew! Every kit I brewed needed assistance to get down to its TG but was feeling that I'd left that part of brewing behind me when I went OG.

Its on 1020 after 10 days. I'd sterilised 40 bottles as well just before checking the SG :cry: I was expecting under 1010 as its only 25L at 1049 with an 11g sachet of Safale 04.

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Mon May 05, 2008 5:03 pm

What temperature did you mash at? Were there any problems during the mash, maybe you didn't get as many fermentables as usual? I am assuming you aerated well.

booldawg

Post by booldawg » Mon May 05, 2008 6:13 pm

The only thing I did differently was have a go at liquour treatment. As I live in a hard water area I boiled the mash and sparge liquor and added 2 x 5ml spoonfuls of CRS. TBH I think I overdid it as the litmus paper ended up some distance under 5.2 (5.2 being the bottom mark). I'd say the mash temp was slightly up on the usual 67C as I had boiled the mash water and had to wait to it to drop to 67C, may've mashed too hot :oops: (sorry, not very scientific)

The fermentation has been fairly cool as I've fermented in a cooler place than usual with no insulation but its been about 18C at the lowest point.

Well the DBE I pitched about 6 hours ago seems to be doing the job, there a nice healthy layer of foaming on the top. I just hope the brew doesnt end up too thin.

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Mon May 05, 2008 6:45 pm

Have you checked your hydrometer is calibrated correctly, and also in your test jar it may be worth spining your hydrometer, as sometimes CO2 sits under it and causes a false reading.

18C is perfect S04 temps and 67C should have created enough fermentables from your mash.

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Mon May 05, 2008 7:23 pm

If your mash temperature was too high that will result in less fermentables as will a ph outside of the optimum range so both working together might account for the stuck fermentation though it might be something as simple as the yeast health so i would try rousing it and if that doesn't work you might consider some Dry Beer |Enzyme though if you use this I would recommend taking frequent gravity readings and as soon as its within an acceptable range stop the fermentation otherwise you will end up with a very dry beer.

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Post by Aleman » Mon May 05, 2008 7:47 pm

Had that happen on a old style mild of mine last year, ended up being around 3%, great body and taste though, left it alone in the keg an bottled a few back in January. Got some nice comments from a well respected judge/brewer last summer

booldawg

Post by booldawg » Mon May 05, 2008 7:54 pm

Will see how it goes with the DBE, looks like alot of activity now. I dont have a problem with a 1020 TG its just the fact I bottle all my beer and was more worried about over-carbonation; I've lost about 3/4 of a batch of Fixby Gold to that recently!

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Mon May 05, 2008 8:15 pm

DaaB wrote: no doubt the DBE will sort it out although once it starts there's no stopping it.
Can you not add A couple campden tablets or Sodium Bisulfite as they do in wine making to stop fermentation then after fermentation stops force carbonate?

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Mon May 05, 2008 8:52 pm

Interesting that you mention maturation as opposed to conditioning, do yeast contribute greatly to this or is it mostly just time? If so I would just keg a beer that has stuck rather than try to kick it off with DBE, I would rather have a slightly sweet weaker beer than one that was overly dry and slightly strong.

Graham

Post by Graham » Mon May 05, 2008 9:45 pm

booldawg wrote:The only thing I did differently was have a go at liquour treatment. As I live in a hard water area I boiled the mash and sparge liquor and added 2 x 5ml spoonfuls of CRS.
Whoops!
Either one or the other, not both (boil and CRS), unless you have a good and knowledgeable reason to do so.

However, can't really see why fermentation should stop early. Lack of calcium maybe?

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