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confused

HELP!

Post by confused » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:20 am

My latest AG is in the fermenter, an upgrade to my stock "Wherryman's Ale". However due to "issues" with the much maligned H&G strainer I have quite a lot of hop crud in it from the boil. What is the best way forward. Is it possible to filter effectively at this stage? I plan to take off to the Secondary tonight and will add finings.

adm

Re: HELP!

Post by adm » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:53 am

Gravity always wins!

I'd say not to worry too much about the crud as you'll leave most of it behind in the primary when you siphon to secondary anyway, then if you leave it nice and cool for a couple of weeks, the rest of it should fall out of suspension as well. Finings would definitely help, but in this cold weather you might not even need them as long as you're not in too much of a hurry to drink it.

prolix

Re: HELP!

Post by prolix » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:04 pm

I am with Adm on this one most of the crud will remain in the primary as it does not stay in suspension like the yeast, if you use finings before this you won't get enough active yeast in the secondary and the fermentation will stall. Weather is on our side if you are a shed brewer as it clears well in the cold

confused

Re: HELP!

Post by confused » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:38 pm

fermentation is at 8 days now, and pretty much complete. Started at 1060, now at 1014, may go a point or two lower but not much.

I'm inclined to shove into secondaries, add the finings, touchwood and whistle. At this stage it's much the best brew I'v produced. Dare I say it I may even have perfected my recipe, at least to my own satisfaction. I don't want to lose this batch.

Shoit

Re: HELP!

Post by Shoit » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:20 pm

confused wrote:However due to "issues" with the much maligned H&G strainer I have quite a lot of hop crud in it from the boil.
What are the issues with the H&G strainer? i was looking at these.

Kev

confused

Re: HELP!

Post by confused » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:10 am

I have two issues with mine, first it leaves a lot of wort in the boiler, second it clogs very easily (as happened with the last brew)

next job for me is to construct my new boiler, complete with new strainer, before my next AG

ade1865

Re: HELP!

Post by ade1865 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:48 pm

with my last brew i had to gently agitate the trub to allow the wort out. Wll this be ok?

And will the Brewpaks strainer ft on the H and G boiler? This is really beginning to piss me off, and i don't have the tools at hand to add more cuts to the H and G pipe.

confused

Re: HELP!

Post by confused » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:21 am

sad to report that this has not improved.

no off tastes, smells OK but foggier than Stansted in Autumn, so come tomorrow there will be a ritual disposal of 8 gallons. Never mind, the shed drain will be cleaner than at anytime since I installed it!

The first brew I have lost, not a happy feeling. It also leaves me with only my Barleywine to drink this Christmas, I can already feel the hangover coming on.

haz66

Re: HELP!

Post by haz66 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:42 pm

confused wrote:sad to report that this has not improved.

no off tastes, smells OK but foggier than Stansted in Autumn, so come tomorrow there will be a ritual disposal of 8 gallons. Never mind, the shed drain will be cleaner than at anytime since I installed it!

The first brew I have lost, not a happy feeling. It also leaves me with only my Barleywine to drink this Christmas, I can already feel the hangover coming on.
If it tastes and smells ok i`d be inclined to leave it a bit longer and see what happens, i`ve had a few cloudy brews that
have tasted fine, i drank them all the same and they tasted good, seems a shame to tip a nice tasting beer down the drain.

The last brew i did (Monday) i forgot to put the hop strainer into the boiler (doh) but when i drained into the FV not one single
bit of gunk came out, i put a sieve below the tap as i was expecting a lot of hops to come out, but the hop bed actually worked
very well for once, mind you there were over a 100g of hops in at the end, so it built up a nice big hop bed.

boingy

Re: HELP!

Post by boingy » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:56 pm

Confused, you should absolutely not ditch that beer. Chuck some finings in and put it somewhere cold for a week or two.

Even if it does not fully clear you can still drink it. If anyone asks just claim it is an English wheat beer and is meant to be a bit hazy....

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Re: HELP!

Post by charlie » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:52 pm

DO NOT THROW THE BEER AWAY.

If it tastes alright, drink it out of a pewter tankard.

Sorry for shouting.
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