Real Ale & 02

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Real Ale & 02

Post by RabMaxwell » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Hello i was looking at this site http://xrl.us/bedaj6 anyone doing this without getting oxidised beers. :)

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by johnmac » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:27 pm

Utter bullshit, in my opinion.

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Post by adm » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:28 pm

RabMaxwell wrote:Hello i was looking at this site http://xrl.us/bedaj6 anyone doing this without getting oxidised beers. :)
Whorst is - and he's reporting good results.

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Post by Whorst » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:50 pm

I'm doing it, but I'm not injecting with Co2. I prime in the corny, and use an air filter on the "IN" side of the corny where you would usually hook up gas. Two days before I serve, I pull a couple of pints to get some air in. I would only do this if you're having a party, gathering, etc. I am enjoying the results and can't wait to brew with my new house strain, Burton Ale.

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by RabMaxwell » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:25 pm

How many day's do you get before it starts getting oxidised Whorst & yes Burton Ale yeast is a good one

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by jamesb » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:33 pm

I tend to agree with the article, it's something I've put some thought into lately.

One of our (professional) beers does taste a lot better after it's been exposed to air for a few days (while venting).

Not entirely sure I'd be bothered about it for my homebrewing escapades.
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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by Whorst » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:46 pm

I haven't had any experience with how long it'll go. Largely due to party guests whose usual beer consumption of a couple of pints is now increased to 4-5. We usually have a party once a month. It's a great excuse for me to brew and drink real ale. I am considering purchasing some 2.5 gallon corny kegs. I'd like to take the same beer and force carb one, and the other serve on the engine with an air introduction.

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by iowalad » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:25 pm

http://themothersmilk.blogspot.com/2007/08/bar.html
Haslett-Moore used to belong to this forum with the handle Onlooker. He has always been helpful with any questions I have passed his way.

He uses gas for blanket pressure only and serves with the corny vented. He estimates a corny will last a fortnight.

I have exchanged a few emails with Ron and Sharon and I think they suggested a corny could last about a month with their method but I do not recall for sure. As you can tell they love their ales and have rather strong views on the subject! Very friendly people.

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by iowalad » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:19 pm

I will try it on the next keg.

I doubt I will come up with a strong opinion as to flavor but I should be able to tell if it gets oxidized. I am always surprised how much my beer changes from day to day - mostly based on my mood, thirst and what I have eaten I suspect. One day I think the beer is amazing the next just ordinary then the next I think it is awfully good again.

On an unrelated note brewed in -17C weather today. Thank goodness for the garage!

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by adm » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:54 pm

I bet chilling the wort went well....

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by boingy » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:32 am

The chilling was probably fine. It was the thawing of the wort that caused the problems...

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by RabMaxwell » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:01 pm

After using artifitial carbonation for years i have started using priming sugar again & think this has a part to play also in developing more flavour in Real Ales.I am drinking a scottish ale at the moment that i primed with 2oz Treacle & 1oz Brown sugar & it's lovely.

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by iowalad » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:30 pm

The temps do help get the wort down to pitching temp quickly!

My experience with forced carbing and priming is the same as Chris.

Once they have sat for a bit the carbonation seems the same.

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Re: Real Ale & 02

Post by SiHoltye » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:53 pm

I'm drinking bright beer got from the brewery on Friday. It's just in an unpressurized bottle and I have noticed a change from the 'fresh' beer Friday night, to the 'maturer' tonight. It is different. I don't use the 't' word lightly, but this Old Ale definitely has an attractive twang-let to it now that it didn't have 2 days ago. Yum.

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