Hob Goblin

[Niall K]

I'm going all grain. Would Hob Golblin be to much of a challenge for a first time grain brew? Read so much about it and eager to give it a go
Niall

[tubby_shaw]

Although as DaaB says one recipe is pretty much like another as far as technique goes I would advise you to start with a simple recipe.
My only reason for this suggestion is that,it is difficult even with good technique to accurately copy a beer and the more malts adjuncts and hops there are in the recipe the more likely it is that it wont be as much like the original as you'd hoped.
If you start out with no preconceptions apart from a style such as mild, bitter or pale etc you are more likely to produce a beer that you are satisfied with, rather than feeling dissapointed that it is not exactly the same.
Anyway good luck with whichever recipe you choose and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask someone on here will know the answer

[Garth]

Like Daab and Tubby say there are a few recipes knocking about for this brew, one of them has a slight mistake in it and when I did it came out way too light, although I still enjoyed it, I don't drink with my eyes!

I've just done this one below a few weeks ago and after a few sneaky slurps it seems as if it's a definate winner, I bottled 12 and barrelled the rest, the barrell version is tasting very close to the real thing, the bottle needs more time to clear and mature.

This recipe has been scaled up for 22 litres and runs on a 75% efficiency, if you want it upped a bit for say a 65% efficiency I can do that for you if you think you may not hit that your first AG (I know I didn't!)

Give it a go it's a great tasty brew.

Hobgoblin Clone

Batch Size (L): 22.00
Total Grain (kg): 5.58
Anticipated OG: 1.060
Anticipated EBC: 48.6
Anticipated IBU: 27.7
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar
5.12 kg. Pale Malt(2-row)
0.18 kg. Crystal 55L
0.12 kg. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt
0.09 kg. Black Patent Malt
0.08 kg. Chocolate Malt

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
26.63 g. Progress Whole 6.00 22.8 90 min
24.32 g. Styrian Goldings Whole 4.00 3.4 15 min
17.37 g. Styrian Goldings Whole 4.00 1.5 2 min

Amount Name Type Time
1 Unit(s) Whirlfloc Tablet Fining 15 Min.(boil)

Yeast
DCL Yeast S-04 SafAle English Ale

[Niall K]

Although as DaaB says one recipe is pretty much like another as far as technique goes I would advise you to start with a simple recipe.

I think it would be wise to start with a simpler first brew. Got a suggestions of a simple bitter or a pale?

Garth
I will Definitely try that Hobgoblin Clone in the near future. I have saved it onto my PC. Thanks for the recipe. I will let you know how I get on.
Cheers Niall

[Frothy]

I'm drinking a hobgoblin clone from Orfy's recipe at the moment - it's a cracker! http://jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... 5&start=15
A stout would also be a good choice for a first brew and EskimoBob has a good straight-forward recipe for a dry one.
Eskimo's Irish Stout
Pensans Dark & Roasty

Frothy

[Garth]

4 kg of pale malt
80 g goldings full boil
20g goldings last 20 mins
irish moss last 5 mins

ah!! looks like Vossy's good 'ole '100% satisfaction', what a simple and tasty brew to start off with, I can highly recommend this brew.

[Garth]

my mistake, very similar recipe and I would have thought similar taste, should have known I have that in Wheelers real ale

[AT]

4 kg of pale malt
80 g goldings full boil
20g goldings last 20 mins
irish moss last 5 mins

this is gonna be my first brew but with 6kg of pale malt and no irish moss cause i forgot to order it half a campden tablet? when? i know i've read it a thousand times but i think the years of self abuse have taken it's toll on my wotsit thingy in my head

[AT]

Can i just clear something up, i don't know where i got this idea but it was in my head all day today so maybe i read it somewhere on the forum. 2.5L water per 1kg of grain i know this but after that do i sparge the full amount of my brew, 22L. If thats right do i lose that much between soakage and the boil?

[steve_flack]

Grains generally retain their own weight in water even when you've drained a mash tun (ie. 4 kg of malt retains about 4L of water)

[AT]

so i just sparge til i reach the desired amount of wort? will i have to take into account how much i'll lose during the boil?

[AT]

ah now it's all coming together for me and would it be okay if i fell to short to cheat a little like adding some fermentables to the wort so i wouldn't end up with 5 gallons of holy water

[SteveD]

The idea behind sparging with your brew length (ie the volume of beer you want in the fermenter) quanity of liquor is that if you combine the sparge liquor volume with the mash liquor volume LESS your combined losses ie, what the grain retains, what you boil off in evaporation, what the hops retain, spillage, and ullage, you should pretty much end up with your brew length in the fermenter. If your efficiency is ok, you should be in the region of 1010-1006 by the end of the sparge. However, the emphasis is the other way around - monitor your extract and stop when you either have what you want, or the gravity falls to a minimum of 1006. Never below. Gravity is the priority, not the volume.

My boiler is quite vicious - it boils off more than I would like it to, and I usually have to top up a bit at the end. As a result, to have enough total brewing liquor to end up with 24L beer in the fermenter, I prepare 50-53L. I never have much left over.

[tubby_shaw]

and would it be okay if i fell to short to cheat a little like adding some fermentables to the wort so i wouldn't end up with 5 gallons of holy water

Of course it's OK to add some fermentables it's your beer, but if you follow the advice from SteveD and DaaB and sparge slowly as well you'll find you won't need it

[spearmint-wino]

This is an excellent 'how-to' thread, nice clear advice guys.

(Of course, I'd expect nothing less )