stuck mash

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Re: stuck mash

Post by hoppingMad » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:38 am

slurp the apprentice wrote:This always happens as i get to the last 6 kilo of a 25kg bag of pale malt obviously this is where all the flour ends up in the bag.I usually get round this by aborting the use of my copper manifold bailing out the mash and putting a large seive over the tap tube inside the cool box and replacing the mash and continue sparging but all this is time consuming and a loose a little mash efficiency.The grain i have been using is warminster but i have had the same experience with other suppliers.So is there any suggestions ? i was thinking whether i just need to seive the flour out before adding the grain to the cool box but i dont know if i would just be adding a higher proportion of empty husks and end up with a worse mash efficiency :?
If you are continuing with 25 kg sacks of crushed grain, why not devide it into say 4 managable lots before the flour settles, each in separate sealed bags. Be better for airtightness and easier to shoogle.
Better still go in halves with someone on a small crusher. Uncrushed malt should be even cheaper.

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Post by slurp the apprentice » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:49 am

:D thanks for all the replies i think i will increase the slots on my copper manifold ,divide the 25kg bag into 4 spreading out the flour evenly and make sure any flour left at the bottom of each bag ends up on the top of the grain in the cool box

Frisp

Post by Frisp » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:19 am

\ont forget to shoogle

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:25 am

Yep, shoogling is essential at this point.

agentgonzo

Post by agentgonzo » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:33 am

tatlock wrote:had to put shoogle into dictionary.com - closest word was shoggle - description - 1 result for: Shoggle Browse Nearby Entries
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Shoggle

Shog"gle\, v. t. [See Shog, Joggle.] To joggle. [Obs. or Prov. Eng. & Scot.] --Pegge.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
I think that there will be a lot of Scottish words/colloquialisms that won't appear in an American dictionary.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:41 am

Shoogle is a technical brewing term coined (in brewing context) by one of our members. It is the honorable and advanced science of agitating one's grain storage vessels to evenly distrbute barley flour from collecting at the bottom of said vessels..

Grahame

Post by Grahame » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:43 am

It fills me with great pride that I have introduced a new word into brewers speak, I can only hope shoogling becomes as associated with brewing as sparging, fermenting and "oh sh*t I didn't mean to do that!!"

:)

G.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:49 am

I'm just waiting for someone to post having pitched their yeast without chilling and asking, "Will it be OK?"

agentgonzo

Post by agentgonzo » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:06 am

maxashton wrote:I'm just waiting for someone to post having pitched their yeast without chilling and asking, "Will it be OK?"
I've seen posts by people who make a starter for yeast and boil the yeast and starter together to sterilise it. :roll:

Definition of Shoogle.

Interestingly, I've also been to see Shooglenifty before at a folk festival. They are very very cool. I think one of them plays a hurdy-gurdy (though that may be another band).

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:43 am

Christ! Shooglenifty! I never thought i'd hear anyone mention them again. I'm going to rummage for CDs.

pantsmachine

Post by pantsmachine » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:16 pm

'To shoogle or not to shoogle that is the question'. Direct quote Bill the Bard.

Frisp

Post by Frisp » Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:40 pm

Jings, Crivvens help ma boab. sumdays fun a scots dixnynary
Only those with the ability to jokTok will truly understand that one.
Anybody else on here remember " The Broon's"

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:19 am

Childhood memories rushing back....

"see you!" *nut*

Grahame

Post by Grahame » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:42 am

Frisp wrote:Jings, Crivvens help ma boab. sumdays fun a scots dixnynary
Only those with the ability to jokTok will truly understand that one.
Anybody else on here remember " The Broon's"
Hope I am not the only one who found Maggie hot :)

G.

pantsmachine

Post by pantsmachine » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:44 am

Maggie was so hot, not so sure about her sister though. Daphne of course was the sure bet!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Broons

No mention of PC Thomson or Wullies long suffering 'Pa'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oor_Wullie

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