First Minimash

Get advice on making beer from raw ingredients (malt, hops, water and yeast)
Wez

Post by Wez » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:13 pm

I called my first AG attempt which was a double size mini mash like yours "Debut Ale" now I name them anything that takes my fancy, i'd got my arse in my hand when I was planning a recent brew so it's called "Mr Grump Bum" I think my best name so far was the one I brewed at Easter and called the "Wezerection". Have fun naming it, let us know what you come up with. 8)

Chiltern Brewer

Post by Chiltern Brewer » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:53 pm

As with most hobbies having better equipment doesn't necessarily mean that the end product will be any better. However, it just means that the effort involved in doing the basics is less leaving you the time to concentrate on improving your technique.

A boiler wouldn't have to be watched as closely as a pan on the stove, and you'll have the capacity such that you don't have to dilute the wort so much or at all.

You guys are so imaginative, I just use gyle numbers based on the year and week number e.g. 0721 - boring I know. :roll:

BTW, you might notice that the first yeast head is a bit "mucky" compared with you're use to. :wink:

J_P

Post by J_P » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:02 pm

There was an absolute shed load of break material floating around in it that has sunk to the bottom - I assume the Safale S04 will form a nice stable yeasty cap over the top of it to aid when racking.

Doing it in a larger scale will also mean the relative losses when racking etc. will be less as well, provided the beer is good enough to warrant the effort then I think I'll get myself to the H&G for a boiler.

delboy

Post by delboy » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:07 am

I think you'll be ordering that boiler after your first few slurps :D

subsub

Post by subsub » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:24 am

delboy wrote:I think you'll be ordering that boiler after your first few slurps :D
Indeed, there's no going back now :D

Chiltern Brewer

Post by Chiltern Brewer » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:27 am

J_P wrote:There was an absolute shed load of break material floating around in it that has sunk to the bottom - I assume the Safale S04 will form a nice stable yeasty cap over the top of it to aid when racking.

Doing it in a larger scale will also mean the relative losses when racking etc. will be less as well, provided the beer is good enough to warrant the effort then I think I'll get myself to the H&G for a boiler.
Nop, the CO2 will lift alot of the trub to the surface and you'll get a dirty yeast cap. Didn't want you to panic which is why I mentioned it. Some like to skim the muck off, I prefer to use the dropping system and leave it behind in the primary fermenter.

John at H&G (I've met him twice - nice chap) will be able advise you on the boiler and other equipment choices.

Hoppkins

Post by Hoppkins » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:40 pm

DOnt worry JP. I posted exactly the same.

The amount of crap at the bottom is because the kits forgo most of the waste from brewing, its already been discarded for the most part.

With minimashing you will see a 1-2inches of crud at the bottom.

It racks fine with some care.

J_P

Post by J_P » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:02 pm

Somehow I fear you guys may be right about not looking back after trying the dark side :roll:

Hoppkins - I wasn't particularly bothered about the levels of crud kicking round in the bottom of the demijohn as I'd seen the thread from when you did your minimash and was reasonably reassured that this was normal. I can't wait to try it though!

Hoppkins

Post by Hoppkins » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:32 pm

Even after only 2 weeks in secondary mine tastes the part. Nice and light.

ade1865

Post by ade1865 » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:44 am

I shal keep my eye on this thread with great interest, as I'd like to give it a go in a month or 2, as an introduction to AG, which I will hopefully be getting into when a homebrewing mate of mine moves down this way (ish) and we're gonna start up a joint effort. more fun I reckon.

Good luck lads.

J_P

Post by J_P » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:58 pm

Quick update on the minimash chaps.

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I've posted this picture up here before but I'm so smug I'm going to post it again! This is the goldings Ale after only 9 days in primary it went from 1050ish to 1010 in that time and is the clearest I've ever seen a brew come out of primary. The picture doesn't quite convey it but I could read the forum through the sample jar!

On a more important point the taste was superb light, crisp and full of aroma. I can say that if the full sized mash comes out like this and I have plenty of time I won't be brewing kits again!

It is truly a world apart from kit beer, kit beer is really good but this is phenomenal, it's a commercial quality pint and it hasn't even been conditioned!

ade1865 - you have to try it!

Oh and another thing Safale S04 is marvellous, in the first few days there was about 3/4 inch of easily disturbed break material floating round in the bottom of the demijohn. By day 9 it was all glued firmly to the bottom of the fermenter and none of the break materials found their way into the bottles.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:10 am

J_P....you've arrived at nirvana 8)

Full mash will be equally as good...have no fears :wink:

A lot say beer matured in bulk gives a better taste....so it might even be better 8)

Love the feck test.....almost as good as my last brew :roll:

J_P

Post by J_P » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:55 am

Next up I'm brewing something darker as even with the addition of 150g crystal the full mash wasn't much darker than this! I may also raise the mash temperature slightly to give it a bit more body too.

Alternatively if my copy of Marc Ollossens book arrives today I may decide on something else entirely! :lol:

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