

I made up the dough for a loaf today with just some trub added, and 25% ground spent grains, it's rising nicely in the fridge but there's a risk of bitterness. I also made up a starter with flour, water, a little trub and half a tsp sugar. Would like the sourdough flavour.floydmeddler wrote:Stir a tsp into 150g flour and 150g water. It will ferment up like a sourdough starter in a day or so. Use that. No beer flavours.
I've done it with s05 slurry. Bread had look and texture of sourdough but no sourness. I prefer sourness. However, if you keep feeding it, it will be come sour after a week or so.
I've been 'milling' barley in my spice grinder and using the barley flour in breads. So nice. Lots of variety too. Planning on adding 30g of dark crystal flour to my next loaf.
That looks gorgeous bellebouche. Very appetising.bellebouche wrote:Here's a loaf... with US05 and CaraMunich 160
Whenever I do a brewday I crush up a little malt and keep it in a jar in the kitchen for breadmaking. Just a small handful adds a nutty dimension to the bread and in this case I partnered it with a little chopped rosemary.
Now, that's interesting. My fave flour to bake with is a French "T80" wheatflour - hard to explain as it's neither wholemeal nor white... somewhere inbetween... I get it from a local store that carriers flours from an independent miller... if I time it right I can have flour that's just a week or two old... it makes a tremendous difference to the loaf. I often wonder at the degradation in the flours you see on supermarket shelvesTony1951 wrote: I grind my own wheat (well its not my wheat, I got it from Chug) and to get that nutty texture, I back off the stones a bit at the end of the grind so the last 5% is course ground. It really adds a nice crunchy nutty texture to the finished loaf.
Useful info folks thanks. I know french flour makes far superior bread. My trub bread has come out pretty well. Pleased. Just chucked a bit of trub in! Next one will be with the starter.bellebouche wrote:Now, that's interesting. My fave flour to bake with is a French "T80" wheatflour - hard to explain as it's neither wholemeal nor white... somewhere inbetween... I get it from a local store that carriers flours from an independent miller... if I time it right I can have flour that's just a week or two old... it makes a tremendous difference to the loaf. I often wonder at the degradation in the flours you see on supermarket shelvesTony1951 wrote: I grind my own wheat (well its not my wheat, I got it from Chug) and to get that nutty texture, I back off the stones a bit at the end of the grind so the last 5% is course ground. It really adds a nice crunchy nutty texture to the finished loaf.
bellebouche wrote: Now, that's interesting. My fave flour to bake with is a French "T80" wheatflour - hard to explain as it's neither wholemeal nor white... somewhere inbetween... I get it from a local store that carriers flours from an independent miller... if I time it right I can have flour that's just a week or two old... it makes a tremendous difference to the loaf. I often wonder at the degradation in the flours you see on supermarket shelves
If you want to try that I'd mix like for like flour and water (200g water, 200g flour) and incorporate that yeast into that mix and leave it for 24 hrs... just as it goes past peak fermentation it's ready to use as your starter.Harrowbrewer wrote:Slightly unrelated, but I've just found half a dozen sachets of Coopers Kits yeast in the fridge. I use Coopers cans for partial mashes quite a lot, but always use a different yeast. I'll try one of my standard bread recipes with it and see if I can taste any difference.
Tony1951 wrote:
Old flour does rise much less. I've seen that a lot.
My understanding is that real wholemeal flour containing the whole of the wheat germ doesn't keep long and goes rancid in about a month. I think it is something to do with the oils in the wheat germ. I think the modern roller mill produced 'wholemeal' flour has some parts of the germ screened out so it has a decent shelf life. This is something I only have a passing grasp of - Chug on here will know the full story and the real story since he manages a community water mill.
Enjoy it. Nothing wasted - eh? Would you say it rose more slowly than a teaspoon and a half of dried yeast? I suppose that rises at room temperature in about an hour or so after being knocked back. You had yours in the fridge of course so it would be slower.Clibit wrote:I baked my first loaf using my trub yeast starter last night, not tried the bread yet but it looks great. Used a cup of starter. Mixed and proved it in the breadmaker, knocked it back and let it rise all day (about 16 hours) in the fridge.