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Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:21 am

Looks good to me Wez 8)

I'm presently suppin Bosun Best Bitter. I'm making a couple of mods to the V1 kegerator so it's been off line for the last 2 days and hence my BBB is at 18 deg c ...room temp

It's crystal clear and a damn sight tastier than if it were at 13 deg c.

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Post by charlie » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:11 pm

steve_flack wrote: Even my Weizen is dropping bright...
Why would you want a bright Weizen? :wall
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Post by steve_flack » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:47 pm

You wouldn't. Unless it was a Kristal Weizen. It was a passing comment to point out that even the wheat beer was losing it's haze.

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Post by steve_flack » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 am

Haze brewers - just a thought but how hot is your sparge water?

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:20 pm

Sparge water temps. I recirc my 1st batch volume to 77 deg c, then add my second bacth volume at the same temp and recirc. If there's any difference in temp the HE soon sorts it out, but usually it's a minimal difference.
I have only lowered the sparge addition temps recently, in fact on my 100% satisfaction brew, which is VERY clear, no problems with that brew.
The Broadsword which is really hazy was done with a second sparge liquor addition of 85 deg c
I have been questioning whether the 'hotter' liquor addition was leaching tannins...I'll only know on the next brew...for definate.
I used to fly sparge and I must admit that the high sparge temps causing my hazes had crossed my mind...though it works perfectly alright for everyone else.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:44 pm

My sparge liquor is about 90C in the tank (before it goes through the sparge arm), this seems to get the grain bed to the recommended mid 70 range while lautering. There shouldn't be any problems with a too high sparge temperature unless the mash Ph is off (by oversparging for example).

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:54 pm

TJB wrote:In general I use Weyermann malts in my continental beers, again with no problems.
Weyermann pilsner malt? Where are you getting that in the UK? Didn't think it was available to us unless you buy a pallate of the stuff.

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Post by Aleman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:34 pm

mysterio wrote:
TJB wrote:In general I use Weyermann malts in my continental beers, again with no problems.
Weyermann pilsner malt? Where are you getting that in the UK? Didn't think it was available to us unless you buy a pallate of the stuff.
And your point is? :wink:







Actually the German Pilsner Malt supplied by Brupaks is Weyermann . . . . Ok I'll qualify that, the last time I bought full sacks of the German Pilsner Malt it was Weyermann. I'm hoping that it hasn't changed as it is great malt.

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Post by Aleman » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:41 pm

I must admit I hadn't really thought about sparge temp. I generally keep the sparge temp to around 72C and rarely go higher 'cause of the risk of leaching tannins etc. There is also the possibility of leaching unconverted starch as well. While keeping the sparge liquor pH below 6.0 should prevent excessive tannin extraction, it is by no means guaranteed. In fact I know of one brewer that sparged with cold water and had no loss of efficiency or problems with run off. The only drawback is the time it takes to get the sweet wort up to boiling.

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Post by steve_flack » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:54 pm

TJB wrote: Actually the German Pilsner Malt supplied by Brupaks is Weyermann . . . .
The Brupaks range of continental malts is very similar to that supplied by Brouwland in Belgium (in fact I think Clive gets his from Brouwland). The Brouwland German malts all come from Weyermann.

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Post by AT » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:15 pm

Don't know if this was done already and i'm not about to read 29 pages :roll: i Just opened a bottle of my Cuchulain Ale and it is massively over carbonated but i opened it slow and poured into the glass and i was greeted by crystal clear polished beer while the keg is still hazy. Does pressure clear beer quicker? It wasn't chilled but i have one in the fridge to test it now, does pressure clear beer?

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Post by TC2642 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:25 pm

alexander taipan wrote:Don't know if this was done already and i'm not about to read 29 pages :roll: i Just opened a bottle of my Cuchulain Ale and it is massively over carbonated but i opened it slow and poured into the glass and i was greeted by crystal clear polished beer while the keg is still hazy. Does pressure clear beer quicker? It wasn't chilled but i have one in the fridge to test it now, does pressure clear beer?
From what I have read, yes, pressure does clear beer, I think thats how those with cornie kegs can drink their beer much quicker. (someone please shoot me down in flames here if I am wrong :=P )
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Post by louthepoo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:33 am

I like the look of a clear beer but drink anything, when i close my eyes they all taste ok :D

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:45 am

opinion is divided on this, there's Vossy's and everyone elses
:lol: :lol:

There's more mystery in producing a good haze than a clear beer ](*,)

AT

Post by AT » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:43 pm

Just drank a chilled bottle and again crystal clear but the keg is hazy but tastes a little better :lol:

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