Hop and Grain supplies

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Reaper

Post by Reaper » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:47 am

I buy my yeast in bulk, 500g packs and there was no VAT on that. The only thing I got charged VAT on was the delivery cost. :lol: :lol:

regards Paul

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:54 pm

There is a specific tax on homebrew supplies, in lieu of license or restriction.

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Re: Hop and Grain supplies

Post by crow_flies » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:41 am

Reaper wrote:Hi all
My local homebrew shop closed down some time ago. I get fed up of travelling 20 miles for my brewing sundries. For all of you out there like me, not having the luxury of living next door a homebrew shop I have started my own online hops and grain supplies. Quality ingredients and value for money delivered to your door, quickly and conveniently.
www.barleybottom.com

Regards Paul
I just took delivery of 12kg of grain from Reaper, speedy delivery, well packed and good communications ....and good value (even threw in a couple of hop samples) - cheers

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Post by OSDguy » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:37 pm

Well the time is looming for me to start brushing off the brewing cobwebs, and now have to think about getting my ingredients in.

Will look into the local brewery aspect for buying from there, but I must say I'm very impressed at Reapers prices and if the price differential isn't huge I'd rather buy off him for a few quid more.

Do you do foil packed hops reaper? Not a problem if you don't, just I always used to buy them that way and old habits die hard.

Do you sell yeast?
If not does any one know of a good supplier for this? Any info on that I would be grateful.

With regard VAT which someone mentioned earlier in the thread- a brewer would pay VAT and then claim the VAT back and then the next person in line would pay the VAT when it is sold on.

I don't think this has changed since I was in business and registered for VAT but then anything sold for brewing purposes had to have VAT paid on it (I could claim it back but then had to collect the VAT paid by the home brewer on my marked up price).
There were some occassions when I would buy something in at zero rate but have to add VAT when sold onto to public if it was used for brewing purposes.
In other words when I sold direct to the public I charged them VAT in the price they paid and then had to send the sum off to HMRC every 13 weeks.

Only foodstuff is zero rated, malt intended for alcoholic beverages is not food stuff and food grade barley is of a lower quality to brewing grade barley - this was how the VAT man viewed what I was selling to be non food stuff.

The only work around we had was malt extract - we put a sign up telling people if they told us it was for making hot beverages and for eating then we could lop 14.9% off and declare that sale as zero rate - you would be surprised at how many people never bought malt extract off us for making beer :D
Mind you just as surprising was the amount of brewers who would insist they were buying it for making beer :?

Sorry to go OT but the biggest problem we hit with the revenue with the shop was samples.
We always used to have 10 - 15gallons available for testing 2 kits and 1 mash - basically the revenue wanted us to pay VAT & Duty on them. The reason was we were using them to induce people into buying an alcoholic beverage - took ages to persuade VATman we were inducing them to buy the ingredients to enable them to brew alcohol.
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cheers & best regards

Marc

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Post by OSDguy » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:17 pm

I think it's going to be (after careful thought) Townes IPA as a base, but I'm going to sub out the cascade and replace with amarillo and maybe drop some EKG in for dry hopping.

yeast......still figuring that one as to what to use.
cheers & best regards

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Seadart

Post by Seadart » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:26 pm

I went into my local Home Brew Shop today to ask about SO 4.

The amazing reply was "We don't stock it but if you want some I can get it in!"

"Well if I want some I can get it online" I replied!

So the online shops win again :lol:

Graham

Post by Graham » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:56 am

DaaB wrote:I was just wondering if you had started brewing again while I was walking the dog :D
I expect a lot of people started brewing while someone, somewhere else, was walking their dog.

Calum

Post by Calum » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:26 pm

Graham wrote:
DaaB wrote:I was just wondering if you had started brewing again while I was walking the dog :D
I expect a lot of people started brewing while someone, somewhere else, was walking their dog.
My word, that was phylisophical. :lol:

For what its worth, I started brewing as a direct result of the flutter of a butterflys wings in China. I've never looked back. :)

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Post by johnmac » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:18 pm

I see Reaper's started doing Protofloc tablets now. They're are 25p per tablet from the HBS, so these should be popular, given that they're easy to post.

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Post by johnmac » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:18 pm

After a long gap, I've finally got round to doing a brew again. I used Protofloc, supplied by Reaper and I can confirm that it works just as well as Whirlfloc, but at half the price!

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:48 pm

Do they wizz round the boiler though once they hit the hot wort
Disappointingly....no :cry:

retourrbx

Post by retourrbx » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:59 pm

Mine had quite a bit of whizz to them...

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:00 pm

I think I've been sold talc....I'll never buy of a street corner again :lol:

delboy

Post by delboy » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:09 pm

Just like to say that i used reapers barleybottom store for the first time last week, top notch service, quick delivery and stuff at about half of what i would have paid for it at H&G and other online shops etc =D>

I'll certainly be buying from him again.

AT

Post by AT » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:15 pm

delboy wrote:Just like to say that i used reapers barleybottom store for the first time last week, top notch service, quick delivery and stuff at about half of what i would have paid for it at H&G and other online shops etc =D>

I'll certainly be buying from him again.
This is news to me, have you got a link Del?

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