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stuck mash

Post by slurp the apprentice » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:39 am

This always happens as i get to the last 6 kilo of a 25kg bag of pale malt obviously this is where all the flour ends up in the bag.I usually get round this by aborting the use of my copper manifold bailing out the mash and putting a large seive over the tap tube inside the cool box and replacing the mash and continue sparging but all this is time consuming and a loose a little mash efficiency.The grain i have been using is warminster but i have had the same experience with other suppliers.So is there any suggestions ? i was thinking whether i just need to seive the flour out before adding the grain to the cool box but i dont know if i would just be adding a higher proportion of empty husks and end up with a worse mash efficiency :?

Grahame

Post by Grahame » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:23 am

I'm sorry if this is an obvious answer, but how about giving the sack a good shake before each use? This will distribute the flour around all the grain in the bag. Obviously shaking a 25Kg sack would be hard but you could lay it down and shoogle it from side to side??

G.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:24 am

Grahame wrote:shoogle it from side to side??
I must get some of your recipes. :D

oblivious

Post by oblivious » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:24 am

Oat husk from hop and grape would also help, available Here

Grahame

Post by Grahame » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:26 am

maxashton wrote:
Grahame wrote:shoogle it from side to side??
I must get some of your recipes. :D
:lol: Couldn't think of the technical term!!

G.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:43 am

Shoogling IS the new technical term.

richard_senior

Post by richard_senior » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:45 pm

maxashton wrote:Shoogling IS the new technical term.
I shoogled my missus last night. She didn't like it.

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:53 pm

tip the last bit of your old sack into your new sack

Damfoose

Post by Damfoose » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:31 pm

Do that a few times and wont you end up with a 25KG bag of flour ?
Suppose you could give it to the wife for bread making when you accomplish the 25kg bag :twisted:

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Post by slurp the apprentice » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:31 pm

Gurgeh wrote:tip the last bit of your old sack into your new sack
yes i could do this but somewhere down the line could end up with a large bag of flour[perhaps :-k that mighy be an answer but where could i sell 25kg bag of flour?]
I did wonder if i place a bed of marbles over the copper manifold before i added the grain hopefully avoiding the flour clogging the manifold
Instead of shooling i could split the whole grain into 1kg bags then add the left over flour evenly into each seperate bag but not sure i could be arsed

agentgonzo

Post by agentgonzo » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:01 pm

I'd recommend against shaking or shoogling the bag each time you brew. It'll just -hake the flour out of the husks and make it settle out even more.

I've not had problems with stuck mashes at the end of a bag (also used warminster). How far apart are the slits on your copper manifold? I got stuck mashes when I first got my MT and manifold, but a hacksaw soon saw to that (sorry, no pun intended). Slits should be no further than 1cm apart, and the closer the better. Mine are about 7-8mm apart. I could have got them closer but my arm got tired.

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:08 pm

Damfoose wrote:Do that a few times and wont you end up with a 25KG bag of flour ?
Suppose you could give it to the wife for bread making when you accomplish the 25kg bag :twisted:
only if she gives you a shoogle :lol:

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Post by Aleman » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:18 pm

Or buy a mill and crush your own . . . that way you have no flour left at the end of the sack ;)

Frisp

Post by Frisp » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:26 pm

Shoogle, - An old Scots word for Shaking.

Have you ever heard of Shoogly furniture? It is a little known fact that the now famous Shaker Furniture was named by a Scot traveling the mid west of America and it was he who coined it Shoogly furniture which was later translated into the English Shaker !!! you will find that in the late 60's most Scottish furniture was in fact Shoogly

Another example being the renownre county and Western Singer "Shoogly Stevenson" fae Blantyre, his sister later moved to wales in search of work and when her son likewise took to the stage he called himself Shakey in honour of his uncle Shoogly

Latley it has been reported in some quarters that A certain Mr Brown has been making much use of the word. It has infact replaced the word "Prudence" when refering to the economic state of the country.
:lol:

tatlock

Post by tatlock » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:49 pm

had to put shoogle into dictionary.com - closest word was shoggle - description - 1 result for: Shoggle Browse Nearby Entries
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Shoggle

Shog"gle\, v. t. [See Shog, Joggle.] To joggle. [Obs. or Prov. Eng. & Scot.] --Pegge.

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