New brewery's first outing

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:39 am

Was going to christen it with a Gales HSB but I need to use a liquid yeast more suited to Summer lightning so giving that a go.

4.2kg Optic pale malt
62g Challenger hops (5.6) all of boil
15g Golding (5.5) 15min from end
15g Golding in hop back
5g Irish moss
WLP007 Dry English Ale

Mash 67c 3hrs
Boil 90min

OG 1.049 IBU 44 EBC 9.6 EFF 80%

1/2 hr into mash now and waiting for a lull in the weather before I take His Majesty out

Seems I've have had to hose him down every day now for weeks, he's got more towels than we have

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:02 pm

Just back from a walk in the Lambourn marshlands, the dogs been sparged (not temp sensitive) and the water is heating. Coffee I think.

Orfy · Post by **Orfy** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:04 pm

If it's any think like here you have a nice day for it.

Hoppy Brewday.

SteveD · Post by **SteveD** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:23 pm

DaaB wrote:Hope it goes well.

Are you sure you have the aa% of the Challenger right? I thought it was closer to 7%, 5.6% is quite a difference (I didnt think it varied that much).

Well, if it is a mistake, you could call it 'Campari' or 'Angostura Ale'

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:33 pm

Yep seemed strange to me also normal range is 6.5-8.5 normally but that's what it says on the label and 2006 crop. Checking with the supplier it is correct

SteveD · Post by **SteveD** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:08 pm

Scooby wrote:Yep seemed strange to me also normal range is 6.5-8.5 normally but that's what it says on the label and 2006 crop. Checking with the supplier it is correct

Are they Morris Hanbury hops, in the gold foil blocks? I think if they quote the a-acid on the pack we can take that as our value. I had two packs of MH hops..Goldings and Fuggles. Goldings were at 4.5% aa and Fuggles were at 5% aa. The opposite of what is usually expected. Also, the quoted values are at harvest and are said to change over time and with storage/usage conditions...so who knows!!

Cheers,

Steve

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:23 pm

SteveD wrote:
Scooby wrote:Yep seemed strange to me also normal range is 6.5-8.5 normally but that's what it says on the label and 2006 crop. Checking with the supplier it is correct
Are they Morris Hanbury hops, in the gold foil blocks? I think if they quote the a-acid on the pack we can take that as our value. I had two packs of MH hops..Goldings and Fuggles. Goldings were at 4.5% aa and Fuggles were at 5% aa. The opposite of what is usually expected. Also, the quoted values are at harvest and are said to change over time and with storage/usage conditions...so who knows!!

Cheers,

Steve

Yes MH gold vac pack. Well there in the boil now so no going back

Orfy · Post by **Orfy** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:48 pm

Unless my Hops are just out of the pack I always had 30% and have been happy.

There's no way a recipe is going to have the stated IBUs. It's a case of increase or decrease recipe by recipe to your own taste.

Hops that have been opened and left in the air will have something like 5% of the original AA rating.

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:17 pm

All went well hit 1.048 so just a point down and just under the usual 80% eff

New hop back worked well:

First use of the conical also. I dropped about 500ml of cold break after 20 mins and chucked it and approx 300ml at 40-60 and 80mins, shown L-R below;

The early ones have settled a bit. Looks like about 1-1/2 hrs to settle and 1-1/2l of waste.

I think its a compromise between dropping the break and getting the yeast in and working.

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:08 pm

Loving the cold-break comparison Scoob, I have wondered for a while now how long it take for the crap to drop out before pitching, I take it that you like myself use a CFC and get all the protein in to the fermenter?

how are you finding the conical, you lucky ....person

in your piccies, what's in the blue spray and what's in the yellow spray, ....me nosey

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:02 pm

Garth wrote:Loving the cold-break comparison Scoob, I have wondered for a while now how long it take for the crap to drop out before pitching, I take it that you like myself use a CFC and get all the protein in to the fermenter?

how are you finding the conical, you lucky ....person

in your piccies, what's in the blue spray and what's in the yellow spray, ....me nosey

First use of conical Garth so still got the 'L' plates on.

Yeah it's protein, I rate the hop back but the only way to use one is with a CFC so a conical was a logical upgrade.

Will be collecting some nice clean yeast soon to

I use Betadine normally that is the yellow one. Every couple of brews I use thin bleach, I'm in that cycle with this brew and the blue is sodium met that I use with it

Scooby · Post by **Scooby** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:26 am

I've just found 600g of Optic malt sulking in the corner

I didn't think much of it yesterday but changing to a smaller mast tun with a greater grain bed depth would have been more efficient if I had used all the grain

Sampled it this morning and I must say the aroma socked me in the nose, almost like opening a fresh pack of hops and the flavour............definitely not excessively bitter

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:29 pm

Scoob, is your conical made of plastic around the Ã‚Â£100 mark?

would love one but I don't think she's having it at all........

Post by **Andy** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:31 pm

Garth - they're Ã‚Â£180

http://www.beertech.co.uk/index.php?mai ... x&cPath=23

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:02 pm

cheers Andy, but nope, she's not having it even more now...

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