Brewday 23rd March - Mild

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Brewday 23rd March - Mild

Post by SteveD » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:24 am

No, not 20th century mild, robbed of potency, but Mild as it was once upon a time in England....

London Mild Ale (1871) OG 1070, from the Durden Park book.


7.65 KG Pale Malt (3KG Muntons Maris Otter from Hogs Back Brewery, balance is Warminster from Farnborough HBS)

120g Fuggles from Hogs Back brewery - one addition, start of boil (after the foamy stuff has died down)

Yeast - Hook Norton Strain as slurry, from Hogs Back

Liquor prepared as 'London' water. CRS & NaCl, no DLS.

Following DP method, mashed for 3 hrs, 67c-64c. raised mash to 75c (couldn't get enough liquor in the tun to get to 77c - 75c is good enough) and left for another 1/2 hr.....

Then the fun started. The mother of set mashes. Even before running off I could see the grain was compacted well down and sure enough after about 6L run off, it stopped. Underletting raised the bed, but didn't cure it. Run off started again, but all it was was the underlet liquor I put in! When that had gone, it stuck again. The bed wasn't letting anything through either way. Did this three times before I thought..go for broke. Stirred the mash, and underlet while stirring. This broke up the compacted grain, which then behaved as normal. Fly sparged from that point to keep the bed loose. Ended up collecting loads because so much of the runnings was undelet liquor that hadn't picked up any sugar. Stopped at 1050 and 37L, preboil. Gravity of last runnings - G1017

Boiled 90 mins, used protofloc. WOW! What a difference! Hot break central ;) Then I realised I'D BLEEDIN' FORGOT THE 'EFFIN HOP STRAINER...AGAIIINNNN!!! Must be senility. Same procedure as before, mad rushing about sanitising Atilla the Tun, etc. Chilled to 18c, loads of cold break now...I mean LOADS.

Yeast meanwhile had been kindly given some wort I'd prepared earlier (and frozen) and repaid me by trying to escape the milk bottle. Damn cheek.

Anyway, I topped up to 24L and got OG 1073.5, adjusted to OG1070 by losing some trub infested wort, and replacing with liquor. Aerated with sloshing, spraying, and foaming, for ages. Added Yeast vit, and bunged in the yeast.

Extraction efficiency 80%, brewhouse efficiency 77%

2.5 hrs after pitching and there's 2" of cold break on the bottom andthe yeast is starting to do stuff.

Today had almost everything. Mash drama, All 3 sorts of liquid on the floor - water, wort, & steriliser, procedural cockups, etc...but no breakages :)

( I too always thought hot break was the coagulation towards the end of the boil. As in...add irish moss to assist with the hot break. Or, boil until the hot break is achieved)
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Re: Brewday 23rd March - Mild

Post by Andy » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:29 am

SteveD wrote: Then I realised I'D BLEEDIN' FORGOT THE 'EFFIN HOP STRAINER...AGAIIINNNN!!!
:lol: :lol:
Dan!

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:31 am

Don't....just don't. :evil: :lol:

Calum

Post by Calum » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:54 am

Youl'll probably find that it is the best you've made for ages. At least you have written down the process and can do it again at will :lol:

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Post by Belto » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:58 am

Ok I'm going for it
What is a cold Break and what is a hot break
I've got a 6x brew on tomorrow

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:17 am

Calum wrote:Youl'll probably find that it is the best you've made for ages. At least you have written down the process and can do it again at will :lol:
Will is one thing, execution is quite another :lol Hopefully it will be a good one. We'll see in about 3 months time. Many of those Durden park recipes look very simple but produce stonking beers.

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:30 am

Belto wrote:Ok I'm going for it
What is a cold Break and what is a hot break
I've got a 6x brew on tomorrow
Break is the coagulation of protien material present in the wort. Hot break is coagualtion during the boil. Some say this includes all that foam that kicks up at the beginning of the boil as well as the lumps formed towards the end (assisted by Irish moss/protofloc/whirlfloc), others maintain that it's the coagulation towards the end. Any lumps of gunk floating about in your wort that aren't hops is protien, unless something's crawled in. As the wort cools after the boil, still more protien hazes out of solution and coagualtes. This is the cold break, and often continues into the fermenter.

Why is break a good thing? If the protien doesn't come out of solution, it is likely to cause haze in the finished beer, particularly when the beer is cold - chill haze.

On the other hand - too much break and the yeast suffers through a protien deficiency.

Hope this helps.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:48 am

Good luck with the mild Steve, I've always been intrigued by these strong milds.

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:17 pm

Steve Im intruiged by a strong mild,
sorry to hear it went a tad pear shaped

Did you wear a lab coat whilst brewing this, a la the website? :wink:

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:45 am

prodigal2 wrote:
Did you wear a lab coat whilst brewing this, a la the website? :wink:
No. It didn't turn my hair and beard white either - though I can understand how brewdays like that can.

onlooker

Post by onlooker » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:52 am

Coincidentally, Im 1/2 way thru brewing a Mild from the same era. Its my winter warmer recipe based on Sarah Hughes Dark Mild and Theakston Old Peculier.

Thankfully it has been increadibly smooth so far ...(oh what a smug bast#*&)

Ridgeway Ruby

Grist:

-4kg Bairds Marris Otter Pale
-2kg Bairds Golden Promise Pale (only because I ran out of MO)
-600g Fawcetts Dark Crystal

Adjuncts:

-5 tblsns mollasis

Hops:

-Fuggels 74g (60min) , 30g (3omin), 40g (20min)

Yeast:

s-04 repitched from a 1034 mild

Hopefully will be about 1060 o.g.

notassuch

Post by notassuch » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:27 pm

Good going SteveD & onlooker!
I love the concept of historic recipes.
I'm the only man I know with Mrs Beeton's Household Management on his bookshelf.
Let us know how these go chaps. Mild is definitely high on the to-brew list.

Dave.

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Post by SteveD » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:50 pm

Sounds lovely, Onlooker :) Strong dark mild, they don't get more luscious. After the mash drama, mine has behaved impeccably. The Brewery yeast takes no prisoners and today, at half gravity, I dropped it into a airlocked fermenter where it can now stay ad infinitum. It didn't even miss a beat and is now blooping furiously through the airlock. :)

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Post by Andy » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:45 pm

SteveD wrote:The Brewery yeast takes no prisoners and today, at half gravity, I dropped it into a airlocked fermenter where it can now stay ad infinitum. It didn't even miss a beat and is now blooping furiously through the airlock. :)
The fact that it's free is also a bonus 8)
Dan!

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:48 am

Andy wrote:
SteveD wrote:The Brewery yeast takes no prisoners and today, at half gravity, I dropped it into a airlocked fermenter where it can now stay ad infinitum. It didn't even miss a beat and is now blooping furiously through the airlock. :)
The fact that it's free is also a bonus 8)
It is a bonus, but I'd happily pay good money for it, it works so well. Now I know what a genuine top working yeast is. The ammount of pure thick yeast slurry on top is amazing, and I don't mean foam, I mean the thick stuff you normally find on the bottom once it clears down. Since I dropped it into the airlocked FV yesterday it's built up a substantial new head and is blowing through the airlock. What's coming out is really thick pure yeast - it could go straight into another wort, and kick off immediately. My happiness knows no bounds. I owe you a pint :)

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