Taking the Plunge (Douging in?)

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maxashton

Taking the Plunge (Douging in?)

Post by maxashton » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:29 pm

Hi folks.

I've decided to take the plunge and order up my AG gear on tuesday. I got a little bonus, and i'm doing it instead of upgrading my PC basically.

I'm looking at buying H&G's full mash kit, adding an immersion chiller.

My question was, what sort of stuff shall i add on top of that? I already have cleaners and sanitizers, some S-04, and other bits and pieces...

What grain should i buy? What do you suggest as a good first AG brew?

Thanks!

Max

BigEd

Post by BigEd » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:24 pm

Congrats, maxashton! Enjoy the ride because you won't look back after making the switch to AG. You want to be sure to have a big enough kettle to do a full boil and a heat source to do it comfortably. At least one easy-reading and accurate thermometer is a necessity, two would be better.

As to grain and recipes I would base it on what you like to brew and drink now. Most homebrewers make ales so a quality pale ale malt is a natural. If you are into lagers, pils and Munich malt are great to have on hand. Specialty malts such as crystals, roasted, black, etc are also good to have stocked for some style flexibility. For your first AG brew why not make one of your favorites from your extract portfolio? That will give you both a favorite beer and a good comparison between the two styles of brewing. Cheers!

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:39 pm

Are you going to dive in the deep end and do a 10 gallon batch with your H&G kit? :wink:

You could go for a sack of maris otter seeing as you're paying a flat rate of postage. This is an excellent malt for all ales. Then as BigEd said you might want to do one of your extract recipes and convert it to all grain.

My first all grain was a hefeweizen (50/50 wheat & pils malt, Hersbruker hops 12 IBU & WLP300). Turned out great. I think a good first AG is a low gravity ordinary bitter, something that you can turnover fast but is still packed with flavour.

prolix

Post by prolix » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:41 pm

check out the receipe section. I just chose 5 or 6 beers I liked jotted down the receipes and ordered the grain that way. forgot to order enough yeasts though so need some more oh and irish moss

Matt

Post by Matt » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:30 pm

I second Mysterio and so how about Plummers Principal, the recipe in the forum newsletter.

http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/news/newsl ... b_2007.htm

Cheers,
Matt

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:04 pm

Nice one Max. No way back now. You can't beat AG (apart from speed ;) but as there's already quite enough haste in the world, that's no bad thing. AG makes you take your time and allows a bit of relaxed contemplation - providing it's not all going wrong :lol:

As to recipe, don't go too strong to start with. Might be an idea to do something with some dark malt in - dark brews are a bit easier, as well as being very tasty. Have fun

Off the top of my head,

4.5 KG Pale
500G Medium Crystal
100g Roast Barley
Fuggles to about 25-30 IBU
Up to 30G as a late addition, 10 mintes before switch off - then let them steep

Any yeast you like. Saf-04, Gervin English Ale, etc.

That should give you a medium strength dark winter warmery type of ale.

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Post by johnmac » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:24 pm

Good decision! The PC upgrade would have cost money and caused endless frustration. The AG kit will pay for itself in no time and give you years of pleasure.

Get a recipe book and brew what you like the look of. All recipes are equally easy, except perhaps for lagers.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:54 pm

I'm a professional hacker, the pc would have made my life a lot easier. However, i believe people don't like *making* things anymore, and i like to make beer.

It combines some of my favorite disciplines.. biology, chemistry, cooking, and being drunk.

:D

Thanks for all the help guys. Much appreciated.

I will have to get one of these brew softwares.

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:06 am

Good luck in your first AG brew max :) It is going to be a long and fun day.

How will you be sparging? Batch or Fly?

One thing that I think is extremely useful is a refractometer. This way you can take a sample reading (need 1 drop - I use 3) to find out your gravity (multiply brix by 4) and don't need to wait for samples to cool first.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:25 am

Yes. Yes i think i will need luck.

The H&G package comes with a "Sparging arm", so i presume i will be fly sparging.

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