Traditional Beer Making

[Morse]

A little help required please.

I came across an old book and thought I would give a couple of the brews a go with quite good results, the only thing is the quantities of ingredients given is only for batches of 8 pints if I wanted to make say 24 pints would I just multiply the ingredients by 3 ? Or is it a little more complicated than that.
Any advise would be great.

Thanks, Morse

[delboy]

can't think of any reason why you couldn't just multiply by three (thats what i'd do!!)

[Morse]

Cheers guys I'll give it a go, the original recipe was for stout and it was rather good,
if you're interested or want to have a go, here it is...........

9oz pure malt dried powder
1oz dried hops
3oz cracked crystal malt grains
5oz black malt grains
1oz brown rice
1 level tblspn strong brewed tea
2 level tspn lemon juice
yeast
1 gallon water

1. mix everything and simmer gently for 15mins - keeping back half the hops.
2. after 15mins add the other half of the hops and simmer for 10 mins
3. cool and strain
4.add yeast

Just out of interest - would this be a partial mash recipe?????

Enjoy,
Morse

[Garth]

tea and lemon juice.....hmm

[UserDeleted]

That looks like a CJJ Berry recipe for 'beer' if not then its certainly a winmakers (wine circle) recipe for a 'presidents cup' lets throw a peanut to the beermakers amongst us type of thing. While trying not to be uncharitable its more like a 'beer wine' than real beer. A bit like a cheap John Bull kit from the 70's do it once for the experience, than move on to something better. . . . I'm not sure I'd want any more than one gallon of that. YMMV

[SteveD]

It's not a partial mash. You're not mashing anything, partially or otherwise. The lemon juice is for acidity, at a guess. Why brown rice? Tea? What on earth for!!?? It's very heavy on on black malt and crystal malt - probably to obliterate the dodgy flavours created by the rest of the stuff. One ounce of hops...which ones? That's 5 oz per 5 gals. If you used Target or suchlike bittering hops, it would strip the lining of your mouth. Bullion would make you run screaming and give up beer altogether!

My advice? Here's the best thing to do...

(1) Take the book, note the name and author, and post on this forum
(2) go to the kitchen
(3) operate the bin lid with your foot
(4) Drop the book in
(5) Release the bin lid
(6) Read the advice on this forum. The 'how to' articles by Jim and Daab will get you going. All the links are there.
(7) Buy a decent book. I'm not sure what's about now, but the best book was Graham Wheeler's book 'The Camra Guide to Home Brewing' now sadly out of print. You can still get Dave Line's 'Brew Beers like those you Buy' - good recipes and easy to follow methods in there!
[8] Get brewing some proper beer.

[Wez]

If you decide not to brew that recipe I can give you a good recipe for Chicken Tikka which will use up that rice and the lemon juice?

[Andy]

[delboy]

Cheers guys I'll give it a go, the original recipe was for stout and it was rather good,
if you're interested or want to have a go, here it is...........

Morse

hi morse have you actually tried this then?? i can't imagine this would produce something that was 'nice' but if you've tried it and you like it then more power to your wrist

BTW DaaB 'flayed cock' thats just wrong!! esp if you have just been watching enuchs on c4 made me come over all peculiar

[Wez]

Could we get some clarification on how old the large cock should be?

[ColinKeb]

i always throw in a small meat probe when i brew, is that the same?

[Morse]

Cheers guys,

Not to sure I will add a splayed cock might ruin the flavor the 1 gallon batch that I made did not tast to bad my mate said it tasted like a sooty stout he once had
I am sure I read somewhere that the tannins in the tea and the acidity of the lemon are ment to help it clear

It looks like you may still be able to get the book of Amazon for those of you that are interested You all seem so keen on having ago and adapting the recipe
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Traditional-Bee ... 0716020459

Cheers, Morse

[Frothy]

For the good of our hobby we should buy as many of these old brewing books as we can and burn them

Morse I'd heartily recommend buying a modern book, the first edition of Palmers "How to Brew" is free online here -> http://www.howtobrew.com/ There are various great books to choose from with discussions about them bouncing round the forum.

Frothy

[bitter_dave]

For the good of our hobby we should buy as many of these old brewing books as we can and burn them

I've gone and bought another one - Brewer's Dictionary by Peter McCall. If you see it DO NOT BUY IT.

To give an example, this is the definition of Barley wine in the book "A wine having the reputation of processing the kick of a mule.... it can be due to Fusel oil prodution - which can be avoided by normal care during fermentation". So there you have it: not a classic beer style, but a beer with a fault!

There is loads of dodgy info in it, some of a technical nature. It's published by Amateur Winemaker, who published Dave Line's books, so they really should have known what they were doing. How did these books get published?

[bitter_dave]

Hey Dave, you could make a point of collecting these crap books with the goal of finding the worst advise available

That's not my intention, but it seems to be what I'm doing Actually, this book depresses me and I may actually burn it. Next time I'm in a secondhand bookshop I'm going to force myself to not go anywhere near the food and drink section.