Brewday 12th April - Old Horlicks

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Brewday 12th April - Old Horlicks

Post by SteveD » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:41 pm

If the weather is good, we'll be brewing this in the garden :)

In attendance : Me, and Andy, the brewer's troll.
Purpose : Brew beer, eat bread and cheese, drink beer (not the same one of course..one I prepared earlier)

'Old Horlicks'

5.85kg Maris Otter pale malt
0.5kg Melanoidin Malt

84g Fuggles Copper 90 mins (to 30 EBU)
31G Fuggles and 25g Goldings at switch off to steep
34g Goldings dry hop

Yeast - Hog's back Slurry recovered from the London Mild - about 250g

Mash at 67-68c for 90mins
Runoff and sparge to collect enough wort to give OG 1050 in 25L in the fermenter. This is fairly major under-extraction. At 80% efficiency it would be OG1065. The point is to get the 'best end of malt' and not worry about wringing every last drop of extract out

The name is the giveaway. This one's about malt character, balanced with hop flavour and aroma. The bitterness is there but not strong enough to mask the malt.

That's the theory, we'll see what happens. :)
Last edited by SteveD on Thu May 10, 2007 1:55 am, edited 3 times in total.

prolix

Post by prolix » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:45 pm

good luck Steve sounds good

And I love the Blue Peter "one I prepared earlier"

BigEd

Post by BigEd » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:05 am

Sounds like a great day. Have fun boys! Cheers.

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:49 am

Hope that the weather is kind to you Steve, it is on the cloudy side up here at the moment!

DRB

Post by DRB » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:03 pm

Have a good un.

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:10 pm

piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics.

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:06 pm

maxashton wrote:piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics.
No piiiiiiiiiiiics! :D They'd be the same as the other ones for Porter I posted except we're outdoors, and the beer is paler in colour.

Ok, we're done and the yeast has started gathering at the top of the FV 4hrs after pitching....ahh you can have a pic of that!! Hang on...
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Well, the day was smooth, with a couple of things worth a mention....

(1) Water treatment. I did my usual thang with CRS/DLS for pale ale/bitter brewing, which would give about PH 5-5.2 in the mash. I casually ask Andy for the mash PH as I'm preparing to lock down the lid. "4.6" he replies. Whaaaa? Testing PH of liquor reveals about 4.9 No No No!! Dilute liquor with plain water back up to PH 5.5. Toss in a half Campden tab. Leave mash alone.

The only thing I can think of is our supply water has suddenly got softer, probably temporarily. Having mentioned this, Andy tells me he thought it was lathering better all of a sudden, and a machine wash had the feel as if a water softener had been used. Wierd.

(2) I underlet the liquor to mash in, using gravity feed. This was a dream :) Boiler tap connected to mashtun tap, and boiler temp at 77c to allow for the fact that a higher strike temp seems required for this method. Dry grist in the tun, and mixed as the liquor rose through it. Doughing in and temp equalisation done in no time at all. Initial heat 67.5c. Bang on. Much easier than adding grist to mash liquor already in the tun, especially if you're alone.

Run off was free, with no hint of blocking. Sparge with Liquor at 90c+ maintaining the mash bed at 73-77c. Collected until preboil gravity G1046, and 31L-ish collected. Final gravity of spargings G1016. 15 mins boil, then Copper hops added, and boiled further 90 mins. G1062 at switch off. Steep hops added. Cooled, strained, and topped up to 24.5L in the FV at OG1051 Brewhouse Efficiency 65%

Pitched with 189g of thick yeast slurry.

So, pretty much to spec. :) Had a weeny bit less pale than I though. 5.85Kg, not 6kg. The melanoidin seemed to give more malt aroma, and will give a dark amber colour to the finished beer, at a guess.
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Wez

Post by Wez » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:11 pm

What was the cheese of choice today?

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:32 am

Wez wrote:What was the cheese of choice today?
Ahh good question. The Leader of the Opposition, who didn't really oppose anything today as we were outside, organised a lunch of:-

Cheddar - mature
Roule with cranberries
Usual Roule with garlic/herb
Dolcelatte
Pate with mushrooms
Pork pie
French stick
Gherkins
Salad.

The day was washed down with about 6 pints each of 'Old Git' The pale beer I took to the beer club meet. :)

Wez

Post by Wez » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:37 am

Sounds like you have a good one there! An excellent lunch choice, there seems to be everything you would need, had it been late summer i'd like to see a wee bit of apple action also :D

Always enjoy reading your posts, being new to AG i've picked up a fair amount from you by searching around. Was actually looking at your "Old Git" tonight :)

BTW cool pic of the guitar in the background - do they call that 'sunburst'?

Oh yeah - hope you had a good brew day

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Post by Andy » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:44 am

Steve - wierdness with your water pH :?

I didn't respond to your PM about CRS etc but I use 0.3ml CRS/L for pale ales and that seems to hit 5.2 for me. Perhaps my pH strips are flakey but given your recent experience with the "calculated" CRS amount for your water profile then perhaps not ? Have you tried a similar amount of CRS to what I'm using ? If it comes up too short you can always add some direct to the mash to adjust on the fly....
Dan!

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Post by SteveD » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:47 pm

Andy wrote:Steve - wierdness with your water pH :?

I didn't respond to your PM about CRS etc but I use 0.3ml CRS/L for pale ales and that seems to hit 5.2 for me. Perhaps my pH strips are flakey but given your recent experience with the "calculated" CRS amount for your water profile then perhaps not ? Have you tried a similar amount of CRS to what I'm using ? If it comes up too short you can always add some direct to the mash to adjust on the fly....
I'll be trying the reduced ammount next. I think it might be a case of water supply variation making the quoted figures innaccurate, because I triple checked the maths and it's fine. The quoted figures are always an average anyway and with water companies (especially around here) sourcing their water from all over the place, I think it's totally hit or miss. From now on I'm going to add it bit by bit until the result is right.

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Post by SteveD » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:51 pm

Wez wrote:Sounds like you have a good one there! An excellent lunch choice, there seems to be everything you would need, had it been late summer i'd like to see a wee bit of apple action also :D

Always enjoy reading your posts, being new to AG i've picked up a fair amount from you by searching around. Was actually looking at your "Old Git" tonight :)

BTW cool pic of the guitar in the background - do they call that 'sunburst'?

Oh yeah - hope you had a good brew day
Thank you. :) The Old Git came out nice, citrussy hoppy and bitter. Refreshing.

The Bass! Didn't notice that in the pic, as the instruments are always there..part of the wallpaper! That finish is a sunburst, yes. Sometimes called Amberburst becasue a traditional sunburst starts very dark at the edges

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:30 am

Cracking cheeseboard, cracking pics, and lovely bass.

Good to see there are more foodies about.
:D

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:07 am

Alkaline Calcium
Min Av Max Min Av Max
92 232 390 23 53 79

That is the info I found on my water supply from Here, hardly conclusive is it! I base my treatment on the average info, if anything my ph has been slightly on the low side on the odd occasion, the lowest it dropped to was 5.0, so hardly disastrous.

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