Carbonation

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fatbelly

Carbonation

Post by fatbelly » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:43 pm

Hi Guys not sure if this is the right place for this question !

Today I put AG6 which is an Old Speckled Hen from Graham's Book into a Cornie .

Its the 1st time I ever used my Cornie, all went well & I have carbonated up to 30 PSI.

Q1 I have left the Gas connected to the Cornie at 30 PSI is the correct? I did this because I am assuming as the Beer takes up the CO2 then it will get topped up.

Q2 What happens next? Do I leave the Gas connected all the way thought the conditioning period or do I disconnect after a few days?

Q3 When the Beer is ready to drink do I Burp the Cornie and take the PSI down to 2 or 3 and serve at that level.

Q4 Does Beer in a Cornie take less or more time to come to condition?

If you can think of any other tips for using a Cornie please post :D

Many Thanks

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Re: Carbonation

Post by far9410 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:28 pm

Leaving it connected will do no harm, after a short time at that pressure the beer will have absorbed as much co2 as its going to, so then I normally drop the pressure to serve then increase a little between sessions
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Re: Carbonation

Post by Matt12398 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:57 pm

What temperature have you got the corny at? Even if stored at 18-20 degrees you only need it around 20 psi for 2 vols of CO2. 30 psi is good to establish a seal but I would lower the pressure for force carbing. If you have it stored colder you obviously want the pressure slightly lower again.

My reg is set at about 5 psi for serving.

I think I read somewhere that the higher the volume of liquid the quicker it will condition so a corny would therefore condition quicker than a bottle but I don't know the scientific basis for that so I'll wait for someone to come along and confirm or deny this fact.

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Re: Carbonation

Post by Ringbolt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:09 pm

I tend to set mine at 10 psi and leave it there. Connect the cornie after adding finings, burp the safety to expel any air, and Bob's your uncle until its finished. I've always found it to be quite drinkable after a week, and superb after 2 weeks.
Much will depend on your own taste and how lively you like your beer. Personally I prefer low carbonation. It also has the advantage that my co2 cylinder has been connected now for the past 18 months and still has plenty remaining.

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Re: Carbonation

Post by fatbelly » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 pm

The Cornie is in a Garage so right now sitting at 2 or 3c.

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Re: Carbonation

Post by setmash » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:52 pm

I'm brand new to this but at that temp only a really low psi will be needed a...need to look up on charts but would guess 7 psi ..as Co2 is more soluble at a lower temp

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Re: Carbonation

Post by fatbelly » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:46 pm

Ringbolt wrote: Connect the cornie after adding finings
I never used Finings before, what are the advantages of using them

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Re: Carbonation

Post by Ringbolt » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:15 pm

Beer conditioning in a cornie will clear naturally as yeast particles fall slowly to the bottom (flocculate). This can take a while to do, sometimes many weeks. Finings typically isinglass or gelatine cause the suspended yeast particles to clump together and flocculate more quickly, giving you a crystal clear pint. Most commercial brewers of real ale will add finings to their casks when they fill them, so that their beers will clear quickly in the pub cellar before serving. Lager manufacturers like to filter their products even advertising the fact on their tins, but at home this is not easy to do.

I found Harris Beer Brite gives excellent results and is quick and cheap to use. http://www.harrisfilters.com/fining.htm

1 packet (around £1) dissolved in about 250 ml water (use a blender if you have one) will clear a cornie very quickly, especially at low temperatures. It also has the advantage in this weather of helping remove any chill haze that may form if your cornie is in a garage, as are mine. At 2 degrees it is possible that the beer will be hazy because of natural protein strands in the beer joining together at low temperature. The haze will clear as the beer gets warmer again and it doesn't affect taste, but I like to serve a pint that is clear in the glass.

Its really all a question of personal preference. Some guys don't drink with their eyes, and if it tastes good its ok. My mates tend to comment if I serve them a hazy pint. They still drink it and come back for a second , but I like to serve clear if I can.

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